Does any supernatural god exist?

[Charles Philips]

None of your quotes addressed the point I made, which is that they speak of 'elect' people in the sense of 'chosen' but NONE of them speaks of the Elect, to which you claim to belong, and as I said, there's no distinction there between believers in Jesus and the lower case elect.

So your claim to belong to a special group, distinct from Christianity generally, is entirely unsupported.

And I seem to recall ─ correct me if I'm wrong ─ that you said membership of this group was limited in some way. If that's right, then that too is unsupported by any of your quotes.

And where's that slave market report I asked you for?

Christian is just another word for elect, we're not only known by one name. Gods Children are identified by many different names but we're all the same. When the elect is mentioned in the Bible, it just means Christians as God's Children are the Bride of Christ, One Body.

You recall me explaining the procedure for Church membership, which is very limited. We require solid proof that the applicant is an Elect, Believer, Christian, Converted, Regenerated etc., then we cast vote and if there are no objections the application is successful

It seems to me that you have this idea that there are many ways to God. The truth is, there is only one way and that through Christ

 

[Madsaac]

Christian is just another word for elect, we're not only known by one name. Gods Children are identified by many different names but we're all the same. When the elect is mentioned in the Bible, it just means Christians as God's Children are the Bride of Christ, One Body.

You recall me explaining the procedure for Church membership, which is very limited. We require solid proof that the applicant is an Elect, Believer, Christian, Converted, Regenerated etc., then we cast vote and if there are no objections the application is successful

It seems to me that you have this idea that there are many ways to God. The truth is, there is only one way and that through Christ

Just a curiously, and it's not personal but a representation of believers like you.

Do you ever think that you may have been brainwashed into this belief?

Because it just sounds so 'full on' and so unlikely. And there are SO many others ways to find the truth, not just christ.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Just a curiously, and it's not personal but a representation of believers like you.

Do you ever think that you may have been brainwashed into this belief?

Because it just sounds so 'full on' and so unlikely. And there are SO many others ways to find the truth, not just christ.

Well, are you sure you are not brainwashed since you believe in the idea of the truth.

I mean as a skeptic, I have figured out that I am brainwashed by my culture. I just happen to understand that is natural for all humans to internalize aspects of their culture.

 

[Nakosis]

Well, are you sure you are not brainwashed since you believe in the idea of the truth.

I mean as a skeptic, I have figured out that I am brainwashed by my culture. I just happen to understand that is natural for all humans to internalized aspects of their culture.

My idea of truth did not come from anywhere/anyone else. I least I have never heard it externally expressed.

However, yes, I do recognize how the "culture" I grew up in has influenced my values. So, if I had grown up in a different culture would I have developed a different understanding of truth? Probably.

Certainly there are values I have which come from experience. Yet the underlying culture I grew up in is the basis of that experience.

 

[Ajax]

BTW, I'm never gonna die. I already have eternal life, I have the victory over sin and death and hell.

Tragicomedy...

 

[Charles Philips]

Just a curiously, and it's not personal but a representation of believers like you.

Do you ever think that you may have been brainwashed into this belief?

Because it just sounds so 'full on' and so unlikely. And there are SO many others ways to find the truth, not just christ.

Well the Lord Jesus Christ is the Almighty Jehovah God, who created everything that exists. He controls every single speck of dust in the universe, He said there is no other way to heaven except through Him. So you're a liar and Jesus is true

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I appreciate your honesty in admitting that you are brainwashed. But I have confirmed everything I know to be true, from the truth Himself. See you don't even know who or what the truth is. Allow me to introduce you to the truth, the truth is a person and His name is the Lord Jesus Christ, He is the One true God who created everything. You should check Him out

Yeah, skepticism is not your strong side.

 

[Charles Philips]

Tragicomedy...

Yep, true to form. All you can do is slander when you hear the truth. If you had any valid objection, you would state it but you just prove that you have nothing but hot air to offer. Quite sad ad pathetic, wish you luck

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Yep, true to form. All you can do is slander when you hear the truth. If you had any valid objection, you would state it but you just prove that you have nothing but hot air to offer. Quite sad ad pathetic, wish you luck

Here are 2 texts about truth:

Cognitive Relativism | Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy

iep.utm.edu

Truth | Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy

iep.utm.edu

 

[Charles Philips]

Yeah, skepticism is not your strong side.

Only those who don't know the truth are sceptics, but those of us who do, are not tossed around by every whim of false doctrine

 

[Charles Philips]

Here are 2 texts about truth:

Cognitive Relativism | Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy

iep.utm.edu

Truth | Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy

iep.utm.edu

Thanks but no thanks, I flushed philosophy down the gurgler years ago. I really don't want to dive down into the human excrement to retrieve it. But thanks for the offer anyway. I thoroughly examined philosophy and didn't find anything worth keeping, so I had no choice other than to dispose of it permanently

 

[Ajax]

Yep, true to form. All you can do is slander when you hear the truth. If you had any valid objection, you would state it but you just prove that you have nothing but hot air to offer. Quite sad ad pathetic, wish you luck

I offered you a list of valid arguments with verses proving that Jesus was in no way Messiah, also proving that if he is God, he told prophets that the only true religion is Judaism. It's in your "infallible" Bible, but you don't dare read them...
You remain totally ignorant and blind about the Bible.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Only those who don't know the truth are sceptics, but those of us who do, are not tossed around by every whim of false doctrine

Well, false only make sense if you believe in the truth.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Thanks but no thanks, I flushed philosophy down the gurgler years ago. I really don't want to dive down into the human excrement to retrieve it. But thanks for the offer anyway. I thoroughly examined philosophy and didn't find anything worth keeping, so I had no choice other than to dispose of it permanently

Now write that text with using an "I". You can't, but off course it is the truth that you are the only real "I".

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

OK, now you've exposed yourself as a troll, I gave you tons of verses

Interesting perspective…

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

I wouldn't describe my culture as having a sense of superiority, as we're not proud of being superior to the colored people.

Are you ashamed of your superiority?

That’s sad.

But it does help to explain your reluctance to provide any evidence of a historical or anthropological nature.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

I wouldn't describe my culture as having a sense of superiority, as we're not proud of being superior to the colored people

How much beef can you eat?

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

I wouldn't describe my culture as having a sense of superiority, as we're not proud of being superior to the colored people. But we see ourselves as blessed because God gave us greater responsibilities. You could look at humanity as an army and we are the Generals, while the colored people are the foot soldiers.

War is a racket.

How can you even concentrate with all those children playing their drums?

Don’t you find that distracting?

Have I mentioned the importance of music to Catholicism?

Just ask any anthropologist. Especially musicologists. Musicology is a sub discipline of anthropology.

You do believe in science, don’t you?

Lots of folks don’t.

 

[Kenny]

You must be joking

"On the day the LORD gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the LORD in the presence of Israel: "O sun, stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon." So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies"

Even if the sun and the moon stood still, would make no difference to their viewing position from earth, because of earth's rotation.

Aristarchus of Samos (310 – c. 230 BC) was an ancient Greek astronomer and mathematician who presented the first known heliocentric model that placed the Sun at the center of the universe, with the Earth revolving around the Sun once a year and rotating about its axis once a day. But the ignorant primitive authors who wrote the Bible, had their own crazy ideas.

Is everything in the Bible literal?

 

[Ajax]

Is everything in the Bible literal?

Presume you are referring to whether some parts of the Bible are literal or metaphorical and not to Biblical Literaslim, i.e. the inerrancy of the Bible.

I believe that a biblical text is to be deciphered according to the ‘plain meaning’ expressed by its linguistic construction, historical context and the peoples' understanding at the time of writing it.
The NT has some metaphorical verses, but I can not say the same for OT. It's as plain as you can get.
If you know of any, please let me know.