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Does any supernatural god exist?

Does any supernatural god exist?

  • Certainly

    Votes: 14 34.1%
  • Certainly not

    Votes: 9 22.0%
  • Certainly don't know

    Votes: 18 43.9%

  • Total voters
    41

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Yeah, your religion is showing.
Where? This action is performed at a local level when there is no time to inform the brain, like removal of hand from a hot plate or ducking when an express cricket delivery is coming towards the head at a speed in excess of 150 kms/hour over distance of 22 yards. Brain is informed later. This is a gift of evolution.
Again, thank you for the materialist assumption.
Is there any other way?

And Good Night. 10.15 p.m. here. The AC in our bedroom is leaking, I have to go to another room. However, keep the questions coming. They are the essence of life, I will answer tomorrow. :D
 
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Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Well yes, the primitive people who wrote the Bible thought that the sun moves around the earth, but we (and God) know that this is false. So the Joshua verse could not have happened and is fictitious.
That is what I am trying to say. If he is simply declaring what he saw, it wouldn’t be fictitious but rather simply his point of view. It doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
 
Since you seem to have forgotten your own post, here you go as a reminder. The part I've bolded is where you spoke for me:

So, because I complimented you on having discovered what I view as a general truth about humanity, you are upset because I included you as part of humanity?

Some cultures spend centuries trying to convince other cultures that they are human.

Other cultures get upset when they are considered as human.

These are cultural differences that are likely historically based, and their study would be within the scope of anthropology.

I hope that you aren’t expecting mathematicians to figure it out.
 

Ajax

Active Member
That is what I am trying to say. If he is simply declaring what he saw, it wouldn’t be fictitious but rather simply his point of view. It doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
Impossible not to notice that it gradually became dark, otherwise he wouldn't ask God for the sun to stand still. The only explanation could be that he was knocked out for 24 hours and saw the sun in the same position again the next day.:laughing:
Anyway, there is no point to discuss a fictitious story that we all now it could not happen. All the people on earth would have died.
Furthermore God could not have acted in that way, neither could have told the authors to write it...or could he?:)
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Impossible not to notice that it gradually became dark, otherwise he wouldn't ask God for the sun to stand still. The only explanation could be that he was knocked out for 24 hours and saw the sun in the same position again the next day.:laughing:
Anyway, there is no point to discuss a fictitious story that we all now it could not happen. All the people on earth would have died.
Furthermore God could not have acted in that way, neither could have told the authors to write it...or could he?:)
I guess when you have received miracles that defies logic, it is a lot easier to believe.

Here is even a greater story, Lazarus was raised from the dead after being embalmed or a virgin had a child created in her womb without knowing a man.

Yes… amazing stories but I stand on the believing side.
 

Madsaac

Active Member
Well, are you sure you are not brainwashed since you believe in the idea of the truth.

I mean as a skeptic, I have figured out that I am brainwashed by my culture. I just happen to understand that is natural for all humans to internalize aspects of their culture.

Yes, of course I have been influenced by my culture, however it doesn't include believing in some supernatural 'being' made up 2000 years a go.....thats all
 

Madsaac

Active Member
Well the Lord Jesus Christ is the Almighty Jehovah God, who created everything that exists. He controls every single speck of dust in the universe, He said there is no other way to heaven except through Him. So you're a liar and Jesus is true

How is it possible to be so sure? Because someone told you? Where you grew up? Or because of a book written 2000 a years a go in the middle east?

I want you to see the light and question your assumptions.........
 

Madsaac

Active Member
I guess when you have received miracles that defies logic, it is a lot easier to believe.

Here is even a greater story, Lazarus was raised from the dead after being embalmed or a virgin had a child created in her womb without knowing a man.

Yes… amazing stories but I stand on the believing side.

Yes it is a good story but The Lord of the Rings is an amazing story. Both works of fiction with some good messages
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
I guess when you have received miracles that defies logic, it is a lot easier to believe.



Yes… amazing stories but I stand on the believing side.

Apparently not .. as the disciples all witnessed the miracles .. yet they did not believe ..
An interesting parallel in the OT - the people of the Exodus ... witnessed the miracles .. yet they did not believe .. in only one God .. nor stay faithful to the God they had witnessed perform the miracles .. as Joshua informs us at his farwell speech ..

and well .. let us suppose that the wonders actually happened as recorded .. when then is it we are believing in -- on this basis -- other than believing the miracle itself . Who is the God of Jesus .. what is the name of the God that gave Jesus these powers .. and what are the commands of this God are we to follow ?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
The awful truth is that endless lists of Bible quotes make my head hurt.
Your spelling of awful caught my eye. Interesting.

This is a complete deviation from the topic at hand. You know, some time ago, the word awful meant the opposite. Now it means something like dirty or despicable. But some time ago, it meant "Full of awe". You would praise your king by saying "He is an awful king".

Sounds strange? Amazing isn't it?
 
Your spelling of awful caught my eye. Interesting.

This is a complete deviation from the topic at hand. You know, some time ago, the word awful meant the opposite. Now it means something like dirty or despicable. But some time ago, it meant "Full of awe". You would praise your king by saying "He is an awful king".

Sounds strange? Amazing isn't it?
Awesome!
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Apparently not .. as the disciples all witnessed the miracles .. yet they did not believe ..
An interesting parallel in the OT - the people of the Exodus ... witnessed the miracles .. yet they did not believe .. in only one God .. nor stay faithful to the God they had witnessed perform the miracles .. as Joshua informs us at his farwell speech ..

True, true, but the next generation did believe. You could say I am of the second generation.

and well .. let us suppose that the wonders actually happened as recorded .. when then is it we are believing in -- on this basis -- other than believing the miracle itself . Who is the God of Jesus .. what is the name of the God that gave Jesus these powers .. and what are the commands of this God are we to follow ?

Noting the nuances of how you are asking… none the less...

His name is MY Father. - I never addresed my physical father by his name as he said, “Son, anyone can call me by my name but you have the privilege of calling me ‘Father’"

His commands is simple ‘Love “.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Yes, of course I have been influenced by my culture, however it doesn't include believing in some supernatural 'being' made up 2000 years a go.....thats all

But you could believe in a metaphysical and ontological status of the universe that is without evidence. At least I have experinced that before with the group of religion none.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
True, true, but the next generation did believe. You could say I am of the second generation.



Noting the nuances of how you are asking… none the less...

His name is MY Father. - I never addresed my physical father by his name as he said, “Son, anyone can call me by my name but you have the privilege of calling me ‘Father’"

His commands is simple ‘Love “.

No .. his name is not "my father" and there are a whole lot more commands than that. What is the name of the God who says .. Kill the child for the Sin of the parents .. and why do you deny this Gods commands .. and worship of this God ?

Are you not understanding what you are being asked ? .. Do you not know the God you worship ? .. his name nor identity ?
 
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