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Does anyone believe in Evolution anymore?

Audie

Veteran Member
In Europe it is almost forbidden for a scientist to contradict Darwin. In Italy coauthor Massimo Piattelli Palmarini was ostracized from the Italian universities for writing What Darwin got wrong

Are you sure that is what happened? It is just what
the loser would say, after all.
Look up "Expelled- No intelligence required" for
a thoroughly dishonest try at that, here int he USA.

We routinely see it claimed that the Conspiracy
will not allow anything to be printed if it does not
support "darwinism".

IF anyone ever actually did come up with some
data showing ToE was wrong, it would be a
sensation of the highest order.

It is fine to contradict who you will, but pseudo
science mumbo jumbo is not data. And
writing such stuff is good for nobody's reputation.

Same applies to any academic field.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
The scientists cannot find a single line of species with a evolutionary pattern, they just appear. Here is a good sire to check out. Species Variation | Breed Selection | Hybridization

Well, for sure we have strong evidence of the missing link between homo sapiens and the lower apes. They are actually extant.

We call them homo creationistum.

I am joking, of course. But I could not resist.

Ciao

- viole
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today

To be honest the theories aren't new anymore and people have just lost interest, similar to how people have lost interest in religion. To most people it doesn't really matter how we got here. We need to deal with the daily occurrences in our lives. For most of us none of the previously mentioned helps us in our daily lives. Some of it may actually cause us problems so we just ignore it.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
I think in the USA there is little change in overall predominance of evolutionist vs creationist ideas. But there is a rise in uncertainty on the matter. Although apparently acceptance of evolution is higher among the young people.

But that doesn't speak to the rest of the world. Generally, acceptance of evolution is very high - solid majorities accept biological evolution in India and China, for example, so that's already like 1.6 billion evolutionists between them.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think in the USA there is little change in overall predominance of evolutionist vs creationist ideas. But there is a rise in uncertainty on the matter. Although apparently acceptance of evolution is higher among the young people.

But that doesn't speak to the rest of the world. Generally, acceptance of evolution is very high - solid majorities accept biological evolution in India and China, for example, so that's already like 1.6 billion evolutionists between them.
Evolution continues to gain popularity.
In U.S., Belief in Creationist View of Humans at New Low
It's particularly strong among atheists & those with degrees in science.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Nah, we heard it already that more and more
every day, you will hear more people say,
gospel music that's the kind for me.
I counter your snappy tune with a brief documentary.
Now including actual film footage of evolution!
 

ecco

Veteran Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution.

I was going to ask why you would start a thread with an obvious falsehood. However, I thought better of it. I will give you an opportunity to show where you got your statistics.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
In Europe it is almost forbidden for a scientist to contradict Darwin. In Italy coauthor Massimo Piattelli Palmarini was ostracized from the Italian universities for writing What Darwin got wrong
Why did he write about What Darwin got wrong? Was he trying to show how much science had progressed over the past 150 years or was he trying to make fun of the state of our knowledge, even Darwin's, back then?

If it's the latter, then he deserves to be ostracized. Darwin doesn't deserve to get criticized for what he didn't know. If an astronomer wrote a paper critical of Copernicus for believing in circular orbits, then that astronomer should be ostracized. Don't you agree?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Why did he write about What Darwin got wrong? Was he trying to show how much science had progressed over the past 150 years or was he trying to make fun of the state of our knowledge, even Darwin's, back then?

If it's the latter, then he deserves to be ostracized. Darwin doesn't deserve to get criticized for what he didn't know. If an astronomer wrote a paper critical of Copernicus for believing in circular orbits, then that astronomer should be ostracized. Don't you agree?

Who says anyone really got ostracized anyway?
 
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