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Does anyone else experience anxiety over climate change?

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
Yes, but it's mostly over the fact that every time I wade into to the literature to answer the most fundamental questions (in particular, the magnitude of the feedback parameter and the amount of warming caused by humans) I find a quagmire I can't get out of. The models are immensely complex, they have generally been wrong, we keep improving our models and data post hoc, and because of the politicization many scientists are loathe to share data for fear that some outspoken (and almost certainly amateur) critic of mainstream AGW will take the data out of context to mislead the public into thinking global warming is all hype and has little or no empirical support (which is patently false).
Despite the inaccuracy of models and the seeming uncertainty of what the future actually holds in terms of AGW, do you still think countries should all band together and reduce carbon emissions, increase environmental regulation, pump money into green initiatives, green energy, etc.?
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Despite the inaccuracy of models and the seeming uncertainty of what the future actually holds in terms of AGW, do you still think countries should all band together and reduce carbon emissions, increase environmental regulation, pump money into green initiatives, green energy, etc.?
I think the concentration on reduction of carbon emissions is not advisable. Certainly, reducing emissions is absolutely desirable, but focusing on reduction here leads to implausible solutions with minimal effects at maximum costs. Rather, the focus should be on ridding us of our reliance on fossil fuels and replacing it with "green energy", at least eventually. I am absolutely for the transition to increased reliance on nuclear power. Nuclear power is currently the only feasible alternative to fossil fuels and it is only due to irrational fears that we do not exploit it until safer, cleaner energy production methods can be found. Carbon taxes and so forth are almost entirely political solutions that will not prevent anthropogenic warming or other negative effects from industrial emissions. Currently, NASA alone spends millions every year teaching an inaccurate model of global warming to children incapable of either understanding climate change nor possessing the ability to influence policy. This is only one among many wastes of money that should be dedicated to funding research that seeks to replace our current reliance on fossil fuels to meet energy demands.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
That's an awful lot of fresh water.
got numbers on people without?
I've seen a documentary of a tribe of which....
the men search for days .....find a spot.....dig three feet down.....
and if they find mud they send someone back to the rest of the tribe

they move to that spot and starting well digging
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
got numbers on people without?
I've seen a documentary of a tribe of which....
the men search for days .....find a spot.....dig three feet down.....
and if they find mud they send someone back to the rest of the tribe

they move to that spot and starting well digging
That's what they get for living in an area with little fresh water.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
just came from Wiki....and that report states...less than 3% of the Earth's water is fresh
 

Dhyana

Member
I'm so trying my best not to get too hung up on things I have no control over.

If I let every news report about ISIS, droughts,
Floods, earthquakes, murders, etc. , get to me, I would just stay in bed or become a heroin addict
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Despite the inaccuracy of models and the seeming uncertainty of what the future actually holds in terms of AGW, do you still think countries should all band together and reduce carbon emissions, increase environmental regulation, pump money into green initiatives, green energy, etc.?

When have countries ever truly banded together except for pure survival? You think China, or India, or Russia cares what the rest of the world thinks? The only way to get them to fall in line would be to force them; and you know where that leads.
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
I've gone anxiety over climate change for a few years now, on and off. Welp, it's come back, and I'd like to see if anyone else has the anxiety.

Climate change is a very serious problem. I wholeheartedly think it exists, and it seems like practically all scientific evidence points towards its existence. That's not a good thing, though. I wish our government just made it up to distract us, but it's real and dangerous.

At the rate we're going, the temperature global temperature could rise from anywhere between 3.5 and 5 degrees celsius, which would be absolutely catastrophic. We're starting a new mass extinction, and it'll be devastating to us. Climate change will greatly harm our world no matter what we do. We may not even be able to prevent the increase in temperature from reaching 2 degrees celsius, which is the "red line" of sorts for temperature increase. And no, even if we go extinct, climate change will not rid of all life on our planet, or make it uninhabitable. Eventually, there will be another intelligent lifeform to replace us.

It feels like humanity is going to go extinct soon, and for obvious reasons, that feeling terrifies me. On the bright side, I finally solved my religious crisis, though. :)

'we have nothing to fear but fear itself'

the fear that bad weather is caused by people angering gaia is literally the oldest superstition known to mankind. This fear has the power to drag us back to the stone age. It has always been used to elicit sacrifices, accepted by rulers on behalf of the weather Gods. replacing scary masks and dances with computer simulations does not make it any more scientific.

If there is something to worry about in climate change, it's that we are due for another glacial period, something which has come and gone for a long time without a single SUV or computer sim. My property was under a mile of ice just a few thousand years ago, and we would need something vastly more potent than a couple molecules extra CO2 in 10000 of air to make a dent in that!
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
It doesn't worry me at all, the earth has always been changing its so called weather, just because it doesn't do what we want it to do, doesn't make it bad, we ourselves should adapt to whatever situation, its all part of our evolution, we have been doing it forever.
 
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