Does Anyone Know where Hell is located?

[Daisies4me]

Please take this to apply it to your life. James 4:10

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Hi SW

I am sorry if I have somehow offended you-- it certainly was never my intention to do so. I very seriously strive to apply James 4:10 in my daily life, and hope all others will as well.
Since you have not offered specifics on how I have given you such a negative opinion of me, and I have no idea why you would come at me in such a fashion, Might I also make a kindly suggestion to you as well?
Have you also read James 4:12?

I leave you in peace
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[Daisies4me]

There is no Psalms 27:29

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Hi again, sw
please forgive me if I made a typo. Perhaps Psalm 37:9-11, & 29, along with Matthew 5:5, will give you comfort.

peace

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[The Kilted Heathen]

Where does the flame of a candle go when you blow it out?

That makes zero sense, both in my statement regarding the OP and in regards to what a flame is.

 

[Daisies4me]

That makes zero sense, both in my statement regarding the OP and in regards to what a flame is.

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Hello again
Perhaps in CONTEXT it will make more sense:

You posted: ↑
You guys do know he asked where it is, not what it is?
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My reply to your comment as to Where 'hell' is, :
what happens at death? the life force goes out. where does it go?

Hi R P
Where does the flame of a candle go when you blow it out?

same place.

take care

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

So you're saying that flame goes to the spirit world when it goes out? No, no it does not.

 

[Daisies4me]

So you're saying that flame goes to the spirit world when it goes out? No, no it does not.

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No, that is NOT what I said. I said nothing about any 'spirit world'.
I asked where the flame goes when you blow out a candle?

Can you answer the question as stated without adding your own spin to it, please?

thanks
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[The Kilted Heathen]

You're being incredibly vague and unclear. You're saying that hell is where a flame goes when it goes out. Well, in any instance, hell is within the realms of the spirit world. Ergo you're saying that a flame goes to the spirit world, yes? Be clear, rather than relying on poorly applied metaphors.

 

[Daisies4me]

So you're saying that flame goes to the spirit world when it goes out? No, no it does not.

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Hi Ragin Pagan

NO. for the second time, NO. That is NOT what I am saying.
what are you calling 'the spirit world'?
We are in the earth's atmosphere, are we not? When a fire goes out, where then is the fire?

It simply no longer exists. Right?

Dead people do not live on somewhere else, they are DEAD. Ecclesiastes plainly tells us the condition of the dead.
look at chapter 9, vss 5, & 10.

death is the opposite of life, simply stated.

Anything else is a LIE told by the same one who told the first lie to Eve in the Garden of Eden. See Genesis 3:1-5.
The first LIE.Satan said that God lied, and that she would NOT DIE. But she DID die, didn't she? God spoke truth. When people die, they no longer exist.

I hope this will explain what I am SAYING plain and clear.

peace

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[Daisies4me]

You're being incredibly vague and unclear. You're saying that hell is where a flame goes when it goes out. Well, in any instance, hell is within the realms of the spirit world. Ergo you're saying that a flame goes to the spirit world, yes? Be clear, rather than relying on poorly applied metaphors.

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Hi Ragin Pagin

No, friend, you simply are assuming that I am saying something that I have NOT said. You are putting YOUR belief in the mix, which I do not share.
Humans die, and do not live on somewhere else in another form. That is a false doctrine that I do not agree with.
God created humans after He created all of the angels. He created the angels for existence in the heavenly realm, and then, the first human pair from the earth, to live forever on the earth.
They were not ever intended to live anywhere other than on the earth in human form.
God created the earth for the man, and the man for the earth. see Psalm 115:15-17.

If you leave your preconceived notions about things that disagree with the Bible out of the equation, and just take what I said in the simplicity of what it means in reality, it isn't that difficult to understand that the flame of a candle , when blown out, simply no longer exists. Just as the life of any human being no longer exists at death.

take care
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[The Kilted Heathen]

what are you calling 'the spirit world'?

Quite self-explanatory, it is the existence "behind" this physical world in which spiritual and primal energies reside.

We are in the earth's atmosphere, are we not? When a fire goes out, where then is the fire?

It simply no longer exists. Right?

Thank you for answering your poorly posed metaphor.

So you are saying that hell is nonexistent. That's not really a location, I hope you know.

Dead people do not live on somewhere else, they are DEAD. Ecclesiastes plainly tells us the condition of the dead.

Being dead is nothing more than no longer residing in this existence, death being the journey through that veil that all things must travel. I'm not concerned at all with what the bible says regarding it, and I also completely reject your assertion that anything other than what's found in your pages of rice paper is a lie; I don't need to consult your book to know what I have seen and experienced regarding the matter.

You are putting YOUR belief in the mix, which I do not share.

Just as you've "put your belief into the mix"? What makes what you believe applicable, and what I believe not? Other than your personal and religious biases, that is. I don't care if you don't share my beliefs, or don't agree with my beliefs; you're on a mixed-religion forum. You're going to encounter other views. You can't just say "no, your stuff is wrong, but here's a litany of biblical nonsense that should be taken as fact" and then expect everyone to smile and nod.

If you leave your preconceived notions about things that disagree with the Bible out of the equation, and just take what I said in the simplicity of what it means in reality

No. And don't tell me to leave my beliefs and views at the door in favor of your preconceived notions and beliefs; that's incredibly rude.

it isn't that difficult to understand that the flame of a candle, when blown out, simply no longer exists.

And yet, when a flame goes out the presence of it lingers on. Sometimes that presence can even be used to bring the flame back.

 

[Daisies4me]

Quite self-explanatory, it is the existence "behind" this physical world in which spiritual and primal energies reside.


Thank you for answering your poorly posed metaphor.

So you are saying that hell is nonexistent. That's not really a location, I hope you know.


Being dead is nothing more than no longer residing in this existence, death being the journey through that veil that all things must travel. I'm not concerned at all with what the bible says regarding it, and I also completely reject your assertion that anything other than what's found in your pages of rice paper is a lie; I don't need to consult your book to know what I have seen and experienced regarding the matter.


Just as you've "put your belief into the mix"? What makes what you believe applicable, and what I believe not? Other than your personal and religious biases, that is. I don't care if you don't share my beliefs, or don't agree with my beliefs; you're on a mixed-religion forum. You're going to encounter other views. You can't just say "no, your stuff is wrong, but here's a litany of biblical nonsense that should be taken as fact" and then expect everyone to smile and nod.


No. And don't tell me to leave my beliefs and views at the door in favor of your preconceived notions and beliefs; that's incredibly rude.


And yet, when a flame goes out the presence of it lingers on. Sometimes that presence can even be used to bring the flame back.

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Hi
Perhaps I owe you an apology, as I presumed that you actually wanted me to answer your questions and explain to you what my post was saying., when you asked me to.. apparently that was incorrect.
suffice it to say that while I disagree with you , I am certainly all for your being able to choose for yourself, as am I, as to who/what we want to accept. No one should ever be 'forced' to adhere to a belief, imho.
So attempting to explain to you my meanings and from whence I have derived opinions on what I will accept as my beliefs, is nothing more than that---attempting to answer your queries, and those of other posters. Not at all attempting to be rude. And yet, there is no other way to explain it to you, except by actually stating my beliefs as they truly are.
I also do not believe as you do, so that goes both ways, but I do ask people to explain their beliefs at times, out of curiosity, and a desire to try an understand why others believe as they do.
Doesn't mean I want to 'join' other belief systems, anymore than by explaining mine, I would presume to expect others to 'join' with my beliefs.
Disagree with me, and I will disagree with you. But there is no need to make a federal case and become accusatory and unkind, imo.
Why don't we simply agree to disagree, and move on?
I do not enjoy arguments, or insults, I do, however, enjoy a good discussion in an adult manner.

peace to you
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[savagewind]

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Hi SW

I am sorry if I have somehow offended you-- it certainly was never my intention to do so. I very seriously strive to apply James 4:10 in my daily life, and hope all others will as well.
Since you have not offered specifics on how I have given you such a negative opinion of me, and I have no idea why you would come at me in such a fashion, Might I also make a kindly suggestion to you as well?
Have you also read James 4:12?

I leave you in peace
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You speak of what you think you know as absolute truth. You have been brainwashed to be like the governing body who are most obviously NOT humble. Do you not know that it is published that they are to be trusted by Jehovah God?
Do you actually believe that YOU are being trusted by Jehovah God? How can that possibly be called humble?

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Hi Sw

In a manner of speaking, that would be correct. If we are talking about it, it is still in our future.

take care
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[savagewind]

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Hi again, sw
please forgive me if I made a typo. Perhaps Psalm 37:9-11, & 29, along with Matthew 5:5, will give you comfort.

peace

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I wonder how Psalm 37:9 can give me comfort when I do not know if I am standing always with Jehovah?
1 Corinthians 10:12
I am not assuming that I am righteous. How do you believe it is God's will to do so?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Fire consumes everything, leaves nothing in its wake.

Unless you look at it from the spiritual perspective, and not from an earthly one.

Exodus 3:2-3 (ESV Strong's) 2 And the angel of the Lord appeared to him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush. He looked, and behold, the bush was burning, yet it was not consumed. 3 And Moses said, “I will turn aside to see this great sight, why the bush is not burned.”

After all, for someone to feel pain, they would have to be alive---

It's not so much a "place" which can be located, as it is a "condition." The "condition" is that those who've died (death being the cessation of life), will be given a resurrection, as opposed to those who are thrown in Gehenna, i.e., the Lake of Fire....These ones will be dead forever.

Revelation 20:10 (ESV Strong's) and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

g0928. βασανίζω basanizō; from 931; to torture: — pain, toil, torment, toss, vex.

Revelation 20:15 (ESV Strong's) 15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

To be, "tormented day and night forever and ever", wouldn't one need to be "alive"?

The 'Memorial Tombs' are where people are in God's memory,

Book and verse?

If death is the end of consciousness, and Jesus knew, believed and taught that, why did He tell the story of the rich man and Lazarus? Why did Jesus say, "the poor man died AND was buried...", "the rich man died AND was carried off..."? Why tell the story at all? If death is the same for everyone, the story has no purpose. Why did He give two different outcomes of death if it is the same for all?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Hell is not something that can be seen with the physical eyes.
Hell is in the Spiritual Realm, it's not a place of torment as some people are taught or believe it to be.

Look between us and those who have died, is a great gulf fix. They can not speak to us nor can we speak to them.

Once person die's, depending on how they haved lived their lives, will go to one side or the other. Those who haved gone on the bad side of the great gulf fixed, will be taught the truth of God.

And those that haved done good in their life, will go to the good side of the gulf fixed, these will cross over to teach those on the bad side of the great gulf fixed. To teach those on the bad side the truth of God's word.

Now after the thousand years haved expired then Satan is set lose to go out and deceive the nations again, and those who follow Satan will be cast into hell along with Satan and then hell and those who followed Satan will be cast into the lake of fire to be gone for ever, that no remembrance of them shall be no more remembered.

Hell is not a total separation from God. All because those that are in hell, will be given another chance to redeem themselves.

This takes place after the thousand years haved expired and Satan is turned lose out of his Prison one more time, then Whosoever follows Satan then they are cast into the lake of fire to be gone for ever.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

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the symbolic 'fire' is figurative, not literal. Fire consumes everything, leaves nothing in its wake. It is also a refiner. A God of love does not 'torture' mankind. He gave Adam the simple choice-- obey the house rules, and live forever in paradise, or disobey, rebel against God and have that priviledge taken away from you. from dust you were taken, and to dust you will return doesn't sound like literal fiery torture at all, does it? After all, for someone to feel pain, they would have to be alive--- Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10 describes the condition of the dead as 'conscious of nothing at all'.

Nice reply!

 

[arthra]

What do all of the religious traditions say about Hell?

In the Baha'i Faith "hell" is viewed as being a spiritual condition where we are remote from God.

"The Bahá’í teachings state that there is no such physical place as heaven or hell, and emphasise the eternal journey of the soul towards perfection. They explain that references to “heaven” and “hell” in the Holy Scriptures of other religions are to be understood symbolically, describing states of nearness to and distance from God in this world and in the realms beyond."

Heaven and Hell | What Bahá’ís Believe

There are some additional references:

"Think ye of love and good fellowship as the delights of heaven, think ye of hostility and hatred as the torments of hell."

(Abdu'l-Baha, Selections from the Writings of Abdu'l-Baha, p. 244)

 

[Daisies4me]

No one knows now,but you will.
Let's suppose it's sun, is that satisfay you ?

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Hi
I wonder if I understood your statement; are you insinuating that the poster is going to 'fry' in hell?

Is that your belief?

asking for clarification, if you will
Peace
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[Godobeyer]

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Hi
I wonder if I understood your statement; are you insinuating that the poster is going to 'fry' in hell?

Is that your belief?

asking for clarification, if you will
Peace
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No I think it's not serious question by poster,so my reply was bit mixed joke and serious

Because we(Muslims) believe in Jugdement Day,and hereafter,no one of us garanty to enter to paradise or hell,it's all God willing.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Hello. Hope you are well!

Look between us and those who have died, is a great gulf fix. They can not speak to us nor can we speak to them.

You know, I believe this wholeheartedly..... that this is exactly what the Bible teaches.

Now, if this is true, what's going on with these Spirit Mediums, who hold stances? Granted, many are fake, but all of them?! There are simply too many accounts to discard it all as rubbish! Some from famous people, like Sir Arthur Conan Doyle; Mary Todd Lincoln; many world leaders, who claim to have spoken w/ their dead loved ones, and heard their voice! If our dead loved ones can't speak to us, then what's going on?!?!

Any ideas? (I've been taught an explanation, and it's a doozy!!)