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Does anyone really think the book of mormon is compatible with the bible?
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yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
My my, that is a long word.
yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
He really is banned. That title appears whenever a mod bans somebody.
We should start frubal bettings on who banned him.
Actions speak louder than words. Every LDS person I have ever delt with was a Christian in my book.
But don't the vast majority have an issue with the Mormon religion?
Mormonism says God is the Supreme Being of the universe, but he has not always held that position. He gradually attained godhood by living a perfectly righteous life.
The Bible says God has existed eternally in perfection, and has never had less of His infinite power and wisdom than He has today. Adam was the first created man of flesh.
Sola'lor
LDSUJC
I believe God has always been God. He always has been God. But I also believe that God was once in a position similar to us and recieved exhaltation from His God. I suppose it could seem contradictory but it makes sense to me.
Does anyone see how backwards our society is today? We live in a country that has freedom of religion. We then tax people to pay for public schools that are free of religion to accommodate the minority of people who are not religious.
The current system takes money away from religious folks and requires children to be educated without religion or pay twice for their children's education. Most religious people cannot afford the double expense so they educate their children in an environment that is anti religious and causes many children to be brainwashed that religion is bad. Then we wonder why children come to school who do not know right from wrong and kill folks or get pregnant at an early age.
Then all these government educated children distancing themselves from religion all day at school complain that religion is in conflict with current society and is out dated.
Instead of arguing about small differences between different faiths, we should look at common dogma between them.
Mormons believe that Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior, that makes them a Christian in my book. Arguing over Joseph Smith or the book of Mormon is a waste of time.
If a Christian follows the Bible without the book of Mormon, their salvation will be intact. If a Mormon follows the bible and the book of Mormon, the same holds true. People make things harder than they have to be. If you accept God's gift of salvation, your going to be just fine.
It is like two people taking different roads to the same town. The roads are pretty much the same with few exceptions. It is the destination that is truly important.
The current system takes money away from religious folks and requires children to be educated without religion or pay twice for their children's education. Most religious people cannot afford the double expense so they educate their children in an environment that is anti religious and causes many children to be brainwashed that religion is bad. Then we wonder why children come to school who do not know right from wrong and kill folks or get pregnant at an early age.
Then all these government educated children distancing themselves from religion all day at school complain that religion is in conflict with current society and is out dated.
Instead of arguing about small differences between different faiths, we should look at common dogma between them.
Mormons believe that Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior, that makes them a Christian in my book. Arguing over Joseph Smith or the book of Mormon is a waste of time.
If a Christian follows the Bible without the book of Mormon, their salvation will be intact. If a Mormon follows the bible and the book of Mormon, the same holds true. People make things harder than they have to be. If you accept God's gift of salvation, your going to be just fine.
It is like two people taking different roads to the same town. The roads are pretty much the same with few exceptions. It is the destination that is truly important.
Sola'lor
LDSUJC
Well I don't think that to book itself is neccesary for salvation but rather the doctrines inside that are neccesary. I could say the same about the Bible. I would even go so far as to say that nobody will be Mormon in heaven. Of course I would also say nobody will be Catholic or whatever in heaven. I believe there are certain covenants and ordinances that are neccesary for salvation. These are not dependant on the Book of Mormon, Bible, and religions. But they are contained in the Book of Mormon/bible/LDS church.
Troublemane
Well-Known Member
I agree with this statement up to a point, yes I also believe there is no division between race/creed/political affiliation, etc. after death, because your relationship with the divine unity is(for everyone) uniquely personal. How we each deal with the awareness of the effect of our lives on the rest of the world will determine our experience. HOWEVER---there are no covenants or ordinances that cover this. You dont get a lawyer to hash out plea deals, sorry to say. I really agree with Rev Rick here, that the important thing is not the outward form of your belief (because thats what causes division between people) but that you have an awareness of the divine acting in the world and a desire to help others with this awareness.
The more we get bogged down in "ah, but in psalms blah blah, it says this and that"...the more we surrender our own authority to determine how we will live our lives in a PERSONAL relationship with God. PERSONAL, not through some words that may or may not have been translated precisely, exactly the way intended.
blackout
Violet.
agreed, at what point do you stop agreeing?(sp)
trinity2359
Active Member
LDS have an intricate view of 'salvation'. There are three levels of heaven and very few determined few make it into the 'outer darkness' or hell. Even if a person never heard of the J. Smith or the BoM, if they lived a decent, moral life - into heaven you go! But if you want to achieve exaltation and be like Heavenly Father, then you gotta jump through a few more hoops either in this life or, if died in ignorance, the spirit world.