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Does Death Ever Bother You?

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
I do not mean to intrude within this DIR but considering that I have the same perception of death as an atheist I can easily say that I do not feel bothered by it. I embrace it actually because when I finally die I can be at peace from this hellish existence of earth. Unlike Christians who assert that one lives a life on earth and is judged to heaven or hell; I assert that one is born in hell and dies to live in heaven.

Nonexistence is truly a marvelous thing if you ask me. When I die I will do so smiling knowing that nobody will remember and that I shan't be bothered none more by the insipid rats called humans ;)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I do not mean to intrude within this DIR but considering that I have the same perception of death as an atheist I can easily say that I do not feel bothered by it. I embrace it actually because when I finally die I can be at peace from this hellish existence of earth. Unlike Christians who assert that one lives a life on earth and is judged to heaven or hell; I assert that one is born in hell and dies to live in heaven.

Nonexistence is truly a marvelous thing if you ask me. When I die I will do so smiling knowing that nobody will remember and that I shan't be bothered none more by the insipid rats called humans ;)
It's a green DIR, so you're quite welcome here.
If any mod gives you grief, then let me know....I'll spank'm. (You can watch.)
 

Titanic

Well-Known Member
I do not mean to intrude within this DIR but considering that I have the same perception of death as an atheist I can easily say that I do not feel bothered by it. I embrace it actually because when I finally die I can be at peace from this hellish existence of earth. Unlike Christians who assert that one lives a life on earth and is judged to heaven or hell; I assert that one is born in hell and dies to live in heaven.

Nonexistence is truly a marvelous thing if you ask me. When I die I will do so smiling knowing that nobody will remember and that I shan't be bothered none more by the insipid rats called humans ;)

Its all good bro. I like your view, it is one of the more braver I have seen.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
I should also mention that the only possible afterlife I accept is molecular reincarnation or particularization consciousnesses through samsara. If a higher form of consciousness is detached from the mind(the soul) then I doubt it would remain intact through this process and instead consciousness would be divided upon the level of its inert behavior amongst other life forms.
Little unfounded but it is the most I will accept. Either way when I die I am gonna die in nothing but a thong and be laid backside up during my open casket funeral so everybody can look at my lovely buns :yes:. I wish to die knowing that I have the firmest buttocks in history.

Also I would prefer the g-string be black, really brings out my curvature
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Death doesn't both me as a stand-alone concept, but in practice some of its applications bother me.

I only feel sad about it when I'm thinking of someone who lived a sad life or had a difficult death. That's because many deaths run counter to human views of justice, so a person either has to be bothered by it, or be callous towards it. For example, there was a recent news story where a mother and her kid son were tortured and killed, and that was just so hard to read. His short life came to an end from torture, and for her, she died painfully while also being aware that her son was dying the same way. Death in a situation like that really has no silver lining, or positive way to spin it, other than the half-hearted acknowledgement that at least they're at peace now.

Basically, any sort of violent death, death of a child, death due to terrible disease, death due to starvation or grinding poverty, bothers me. Especially if a person lives a sad life and then dies, it just seems so sad. And if a person gets through all that, death for the elderly is often rather harsh, crippling the body and often crippling the mind as well, stripping away portions of memories, intelligence, personality, and even wisdom, before taking their life.

I don't really look too negatively towards deaths of people that lived a happy and well-lived life. In my view there's nothing too problematic about oblivion itself- it's just that when oblivion follows a sad story, it seals the deal on that story.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
I don't believe in any existence after death, and yes, that thought does bother me. If I think about it too long or deeply, it actively frightens me. I know, I know, if I don't exist then I won't know what I'm missing out on. This doesn't soothe me. We've got one shot to do everything, and that's it. Gone forever. Ugh. I have to go think about something else now.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
I'm not really afraid of death to be honest, as in the concept of no longer being alive - it's going to happen to all of us, and we won't actually be conscious to realize we're actually dead anyways.

What bothers me is life, funnily enough. The sheer potential for pain and suffering worries me, as anyone can slip off the ladder and end up in a hell-hole existence.

I do however, worry about the actual process of dying, whether it be of natural causes, accident, or through homicide/suicide. Trauma, pain, suffering - all these things are aspects of life and not death, although dying will most-likely be traumatic, at least once we are dead then it's over.

Penumbra said:
Basically, any sort of violent death, death of a child, death due to terrible disease, death due to starvation or grinding poverty, bothers me. Especially if a person lives a sad life and then dies, it just seems so sad. And if a person gets through all that, death for the elderly is often rather harsh, crippling the body and often crippling the mind as well, stripping away portions of memories, intelligence, personality, and even wisdom, before taking their life.

I agree. So many people get a crap life, and then die a usually crap death. There's no actual positive to their existence, and once they're dead that's it - end of story for that person, no happy ending, just a crap existence.

I think maybe that's why we're so keen to dream up some sort of cosmic justice in an afterlife, where people who got a raw deal in life get rewarded in an afterlife.
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member
I wish it could.

Now, illness and aging, that is something else entirely.

Indeed that is the issue.

We effectively die every night when we enter dreamless sleep. Non-awareness is no problem.


I worked as a nurse in a psycho-geriatric ward when I was quite young. That was probably the most enlightening event of my life. From that experience, I have understood why people are driven to religion and the endless varieties of delusion and denial. It was, in a word, horrific. So horrific that I suddenly became a chain smoker of cigarettes, and even resorted ( for a couple of days ...) to reading the Gideon's Bible in the staff room, while I sucked on as many cigarettes as I could consume in a ten minute break. Most of the staff developed bad drug habits, and severe anxiety/depression.

I can assure you that the more lucid clients were not afraid of death, they were eager for the release - every morning I was assailed by heartbreaking requests to assist them to die.

My feeling is that when a culture does not give a very high priority to providing the most loving and compassionate care to those in the process of dying, the whole culture is traumatised - and that trauma is hidden, driven into the subconscious where it festers. We all have a vague, disconcerting notion of what is going on behind those doors through which we never wish to pass. Part of what makes it so disturbing is the collective guilt and anxiety, knowing that animals in animal shelters are treated better, and euthanased rather than maintained in a pointless and heartless hell-realm.

I certainly have no intention of allowing my final years to be a 'temporary asset' in a nightmare-for-profit business.

All the distraction and avoidance you are generating now ( smartphones, cult-of-personality, making money, envisioning a future of high-tech luxury, or indulgence in the flowery language of religion ...) will be of no help to you in those last years.

Death is not what you need to be worried about. How we get there, however, is worthy of our consideration.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Indeed that is the issue.

We effectively die every night when we enter dreamless sleep. Non-awareness is no problem.


I worked as a nurse in a psycho-geriatric ward when I was quite young. That was probably the most enlightening event of my life. From that experience, I have understood why people are driven to religion and the endless varieties of delusion and denial. It was, in a word, horrific. So horrific that I suddenly became a chain smoker of cigarettes, and even resorted ( for a couple of days ...) to reading the Gideon's Bible in the staff room, while I sucked on as many cigarettes as I could consume in a ten minute break. Most of the staff developed bad drug habits, and severe anxiety/depression.

I can assure you that the more lucid clients were not afraid of death, they were eager for the release - every morning I was assailed by heartbreaking requests to assist them to die.

My feeling is that when a culture does not give a very high priority to providing the most loving and compassionate care to those in the process of dying, the whole culture is traumatised - and that trauma is hidden, driven into the subconscious where it festers. We all have a vague, disconcerting notion of what is going on behind those doors through which we never wish to pass. Part of what makes it so disturbing is the collective guilt and anxiety, knowing that animals in animal shelters are treated better, and euthanased rather than maintained in a pointless and heartless hell-realm.

I certainly have no intention of allowing my final years to be a 'temporary asset' in a nightmare-for-profit business.

All the distraction and avoidance you are generating now ( smartphones, cult-of-personality, making money, envisioning a future of high-tech luxury, or indulgence in the flowery language of religion ...) will be of no help to you in those last years.

Death is not what you need to be worried about. How we get there, however, is worthy of our consideration.

Aye, it's not the concept of death, but the process that's worrying.

 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. Death is not actually worrisome in respect to noting that all the responsible atoms throughout life that had made me up as a living being will still still around and intact other than it's arrangement causing an interruption to the phenomena of life and form.

With integration over time and the right conditions however I suspect life will erupt again someday and the lights will likely click on for another duration in renewed form.

The only worrisome thing would be questioning whats next, but I don't think the worries carry over making it pointless if I do so.

All said however, if life is going well enough atm I do understand about not wanting to "leave the playground " so to speak.
 

TheMusicTheory

Lord of Diminished 5ths
I'll admit to occasionally thinking about death and being slightly unnerved by it, but those moments are few.

In general, the idea of it doesn't bother me. The way I see it, non-existence was how I spent the vast, VAST majority of time since the birth of the universe up to this point and it didn't seem disagreeable to me at the time.
 
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