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Does evidence of God(s) exist?

Ormiston

Well-Known Member
Has anyone SEEN evidence with their own two eyes that God or Gods exist? Be VERY specific. I am mostly interested in unlikely events, clues found in nature, or spiritual interventions. I am NOT interested in hearsay, scripture, or generalizations about emotions (love, morals, etc.).
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
There is no physical evidence that God exists.
There is likewise, no evidence that God does not exist.
Miracles, the evidence for which is not scientificaly proven, are the nearest to proof that can be offered.

Never the less many of us KNOW that God does exist.

Terry__________________________-
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.
 

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
There is no evidence thru the natural sciences. Evidences thru reason is of course something that can be argued all day.

~Victor
 

Bennettresearch

Politically Incorrect
Ormiston said:
Has anyone SEEN evidence with their own two eyes that God or Gods exist? Be VERY specific. I am mostly interested in unlikely events, clues found in nature, or spiritual interventions. I am NOT interested in hearsay, scripture, or generalizations about emotions (love, morals, etc.).
Hi Orm,

Actually the answer to this question can be one of perspective. One can dismiss the miracle of their existence and the earth that surrounds them or they can view this as proof that some higher power was/is at work here. To give an example of this, look at the universe. It is a crucible of powerful forces that we cannot survive in. We ended up with a beautiful planet that shelters us and allows us to live our lives. This is a miracle. Or, as most materialist do, one can go into physics and science etc and say it is all an accident. On the other hand, spiritual experiences cannot be repeated in a labratory so they are easily dismissed by materialists.
 

Ormiston

Well-Known Member
Perhaps I didn't phrase the question well. Let's try again. Has anyone witnessed a miracle? To claim no evidence exists is to claim that the miracles in the bible do not exist. Has God or Gods spoken directly to anyone? There are people throughout history that claim this. Has anyones religion saved their lives? I know a few people who claim this. I'm not looking to prove God does or does not exist, I'm just looking for clues.
 

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
Ormiston said:
Perhaps I didn't phrase the question well. Let's try again. Has anyone witnessed a miracle? To claim no evidence exists is to claim that the miracles in the bible do not exist. Has God or Gods spoken directly to anyone? There are people throughout history that claim this. Has anyones religion saved their lives? I know a few people who claim this. I'm not looking to prove God does or does not exist, I'm just looking for clues.
I personally have not seen or experienced a miracle (aside from my little one being born).
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I have seen things I can't explain (like an exorcism). Nonetheless, none of my faith revolves around that.


~Victor
 

almifkhar

Active Member
this may sound corney but for me a look at the hubble telescope pictures of galaxies and the like as well as the natural landscapes here on earth are proof enough for me that god exists.
 

chuck010342

Active Member
Ormiston said:
Has anyone SEEN evidence with their own two eyes that God or Gods exist? Be VERY specific. I am mostly interested in unlikely events, clues found in nature, or spiritual interventions. I am NOT interested in hearsay, scripture, or generalizations about emotions (love, morals, etc.).

So you only want empiracle evidence then? Show you shall recieve.

Would you consider the argument from design?
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Our presence is the only evidence that I need that God exists.

Of course, a simple dive into the oceans shows me God all over again. The wonders of the depths are amazing.

Then there is the universe that declares his glory! The stars and the planets all sing the wonders of God.

What? You don't see God in every leaf, in every sunrise and sunset? If you seek him, you will find him. :D
 

Ormiston

Well-Known Member
NetDoc said:
Our presence is the only evidence that I need that God exists.

Of course, a simple dive into the oceans shows me God all over again. The wonders of the depths are amazing.

Then there is the universe that declares his glory! The stars and the planets all sing the wonders of God.

What? You don't see God in every leaf, in every sunrise and sunset? If you seek him, you will find him. :D
:D No! That's why I'm asking. Although, now that you've mentioned it, sort of reminds me of an LSD trip...:areyoucra
 

Ormiston

Well-Known Member
chuck010342 said:
So you only want empiracle evidence then? Show you shall recieve.

Would you consider the argument from design?
I don't think I can handle any more of that. That's why I'm taking a slightly more direct route...:bounce
 

Met0047

Member
God is exist.Yes, and the evidence is your mind and your complicated body that none can't make something like it .It is not nature, because nature also from God

Thanks
Ormiston said:
Has anyone SEEN evidence with their own two eyes that God or Gods exist? Be VERY specific. I am mostly interested in unlikely events, clues found in nature, or spiritual interventions. I am NOT interested in hearsay, scripture, or generalizations about emotions (love, morals, etc.).
 
Ormiston said:
Perhaps I didn't phrase the question well. Let's try again. Has anyone witnessed a miracle? To claim no evidence exists is to claim that the miracles in the bible do not exist. Has God or Gods spoken directly to anyone? There are people throughout history that claim this. Has anyones religion saved their lives? I know a few people who claim this. I'm not looking to prove God does or does not exist, I'm just looking for clues.
Each day, each breath, is a God given miracle.

The largest clue that "proves" God exists is the order of the universe. Everything in existance interacts on a large logical scale that often leaves evolution scratching its head as it tries to figure out how such order can come from chaos. Life violates the 2nd law of thermal dynamics by existing well past its expiration date. The fact that order cannot come from chaos, as stated by the law, offers a large clue toward supporting God's existence.

But then, I am looking at it all through the eyes of a believer ;)
 

gtrsgrls

Member
Terrywoodenpic said:
There is no physical evidence that God exists.
There is likewise, no evidence that God does not exist.
Miracles, the evidence for which is not scientificaly proven, are the nearest to proof that can be offered.

Never the less many of us KNOW that God does exist.
Have you ever driven by mount Rushmore?That is obviously something that was created.Right?Not something that nature can do.Right?It's too complecated.So when we see something like our world,something that is so complicated,it proves that something must have created it.Or you could go on the belief that everything you see here,mountains,oceans,sunsets,all these beautiful things somehow evolved from an atom.But wait...where did that atom come from?Hmmm.
 

JerryL

Well-Known Member
Have you ever driven by mount Rushmore?
No, but I've seen it.

That is obviously something that was created.Right?
Yes, it has all the hallmarks we know to be a man-made work.

Not something that nature can do.Right?
Wrong. Nature is perfectly capabale of doing it; but the likelhood of such specific mimicry is very low. It's unprescedented for chaotic elements to make, what we would know to be an abomination (as we don't see them everywhere) that was so specifically similar to something else.

Nature did, in fact, make the faces of the people that the artist then copied onto the mountain.

It's too complecated.
Not at all. It's no more complicated than any other varied stone... it's just specific.

So when we see something like our world,something that is so complicated,it proves that something must have created it.
Is God complicated?

Or you could go on the belief that everything you see here,mountains,oceans,sunsets,all these beautiful things somehow evolved from an atom.
No, these things did not evolve. They formed.

But wait...where did that atom come from?Hmmm.
Rapidly cooling sub-atomic particles. Where did God come from?
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
JerryL said:
No, but I've seen it.

Yes, it has all the hallmarks we know to be a man-made work.

Wrong. Nature is perfectly capabale of doing it; but the likelhood of such specific mimicry is very low. It's unprescedented for chaotic elements to make, what we would know to be an abomination (as we don't see them everywhere) that was so specifically similar to something else.

Nature did, in fact, make the faces of the people that the artist then copied onto the mountain.

Not at all. It's no more complicated than any other varied stone... it's just specific.

Is God complicated?

No, these things did not evolve. They formed.

Rapidly cooling sub-atomic particles. Where did God come from?
Am I getting a feeling of déjà vu, or are we at the same stage in another thread ? :D
 

AtheistAJ

Member
gtrsgrls said:
Have you ever driven by mount Rushmore?That is obviously something that was created.Right?Not something that nature can do.Right?It's too complecated.So when we see something like our world,something that is so complicated,it proves that something must have created it.Or you could go on the belief that everything you see here,mountains,oceans,sunsets,all these beautiful things somehow evolved from an atom.But wait...where did that atom come from?Hmmm.
1) Trees (example) were not created by humans, neither were hydrogen molecules, which created trees and humans. Trees and humans are can all be beautiful, it's just different tastes. The fact humans who came up with idea of gods imagined them in human likeness is a proof religion is a lie. What they couldn't have been more imaginitive? And why would some god have arms and legs and be designed for life on Earth when he allegedly created all there is to be?
2) Q - Who created god(s)? A - Humans.
3) Q - Who created mount Rushmore? A - Humans.
 

Ormiston

Well-Known Member
Has God spoken directly to anyone? Has anyone witnessed what they thought was a classic miracle? Arguing about design seems like a lost cause. What about near death experiences? I just want one first hand example. Jesus supposedly showed miracles to thousands of people, and how many prophets have claimed to have been approached by God in their dreams? Anyone seen the Virgin Mary on a piece of toast lately?
 
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