John Eastern
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I knew that. I also know I have to go to work. If we're here tomorrow, I can't explain now, but... bye... have a bagel
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You misunderstand me Stemann. The point of my thread was the evil, the adjective, exists. That's all. The rest of the thread was simply me attempting to analyze the good/evil duality. I don't believe good or evil exist beyond human labels.stemann said:First off, it isn't clear that evil exists at all. Just what do you define evil as? What gives you the authority to call someone who murders toddlers for pleasure 'evil' and does not give them the authority to call you 'evil' for not doing as such?
I don't know why I am laughing. Neither do you. That's good.Ormiston said:You misunderstand me Stemann. The point of my thread was the evil, the adjective, exists. That's all. The rest of the thread was simply me attempting to analyze the good/evil duality. I don't believe good or evil exist beyond human labels.
Regarding the question of evil; it may be more relevant to ask the oh so obvious. Do you Humans exist, then you have your answer.Ormiston said:You misunderstand me Stemann. The point of my thread was the evil, the adjective, exists. That's all. The rest of the thread was simply me attempting to analyze the good/evil duality. I don't believe good or evil exist beyond human labels.
Micheal, I promise I will explain everything, but I have to go to bed now. Nite nitemichel said:I won't, but why don't you explain why ?
I dont see an answer whether we do or dont; what is it?Do you Humans exist, then you have your answer.
What??? Can you explain this a bit more to me please??I don't know why I am laughing. Neither do you. That's good.
I know why I am not laughing. But you do. That's evil.
Ok, but what exactly do you mean by that term 'exists' here?You misunderstand me Stemann. The point of my thread was the evil, the adjective, exists. That's all.
I think i am agreeing with John Eastern here (although i cant be sure, because i dont exactly understand what he said), but i dont think you are correct, for reasons similar to you dont define what 'wrong' means.Evil is the wrong that man does when he chooses to do wrong by his own free will.
The word does have a definition-probably quite a few. That is how it exists, as an idea in a man's mind described by a word. Everyone's view is seperate and unique, but almost everyone knows what the word means, generally, whether you believe it actually applies to a specific action or not. I personally don't believe in absolute good/evil. I think that every action can be justified by someone, somewhere and I don't believe any sort of standardized rules have ever been presented to mankind by a supernatural being. I understand why we've structured civilization the way we have with right/wrong and good/evil - it's a necessity for peaceful co-existance.stemann said:Ok, but what exactly do you mean by that term 'exists' here?
Do you mean the word exists as a mixture of letters?
Or that the word has a definition in one way or another?
Or something else?
I agree whole-heartedly. But, like I said, the point of the thread is in highlighting the difficulties of characterizing easily such dualities as light/dark, good/evil etc. Is one just the absence of another? The inverse of another? Is evil the absence of good? Could 'good' be just as easily described as the absence of 'evil' or is this illogical? If so, then 'good' and 'evil' arent just simply opposites.The word does have a definition-probably quite a few. That is how it exists, as an idea in a man's mind described by a word. Everyone's view is seperate and unique, but almost everyone knows what the word means, generally, whether you believe it actually applies to a specific action or not. I personally don't believe in absolute good/evil. I think that every action can be justified by someone, somewhere and I don't believe any sort of standardized rules have ever been presented to mankind by a supernatural being. I understand why we've structured civilization the way we have with right/wrong and good/evil - it's a necessity for peaceful co-existance.