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Does Evolution say anything about God?

Youtellme

Active Member
I have heard people say that evolution says nothing about God. I half agree with this whilst at the same time think it does say something.
What do you think? As evolution is a fact, how does that affect the notion of a creator God? Does it even leave the possiblilty that he's a God that got the ball rolling, as it were?
If evolution is a fact, then does that do away with God all together? And if it does, then evolution really has something to say about God.
What do you think? What does evolution say about God?
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Evolution doesn't speak. It's a process that people observe and interpret.

Evolution neither proves nor disproves God. It is religiously significant for people who consider a literal interpretation of certain religions. That is all.
 

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
Evolution doesn't speak. It's a process that people observe and interpret.

Evolution neither proves nor disproves God. It is religiously significant for people who consider a literal interpretation of certain religions. That is all.

What she said.

Also, science in general does not concern itself with unfalsifiable concepts like "god". They are simply ignored, as they should be by humanity as a whole. ;)
 
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Reptillian

Hamburgler Extraordinaire
If you believe in a creator god and evolution, the process does have something to say about the way your god thinks and about its moral processes and objectives. Evolution seems like a really cruel way to create. Its a process that doesn't care about the survival or suffering of the individual, only the group/species as a whole. Its also a limited and haphazard way to create. There are only certain kinds of structures that evolution is capable of producing and it takes a VERY long time. The creator would need a lot of patience.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
First it is very important to understand that the question of “God” lies outside the boundaries of science. This includes questions about the existence of “God” and questions about the nature of “God”. Anything to do with the supernatural is out of bounds for science.

But as long as that is understood, I would say the answer to your question would have to be yes. Evolution is a reality, and it is a very important part of understanding reality. Evolution does not mean there is no “God”, but if there is a “God” then I agree that the fact of evolution must say something about the nature of “God”. Although to be honest I am not quite sure what it says. Sorry.
 

Noaidi

slow walker
Evolution can explain the personal and societal advantages in believing in a god, but as the concept of god is not uniform, then no, science can't even begin to test for its existence or non-existence.

Best leave it out of the equation.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Here's my opinion, written in another thread:

If your religion depends on a doctrine that says God created each individual species independently and it has never changed since that time, then it certainly speaks to the existence of that Creator.

Darwin recognized this.

Summary of Ch 5, pg 167 The Origin of Species: Chapter 5
He who believes that each equine species was independently created, will, I presume, assert that each species has been created with a tendency to vary, both under nature and under domestication, in this particular manner, so as often to become striped like other species of the genus; and that each has been created with a strong tendency, when crossed with species inhabiting distant quarters of the world, to produce hybrids resembling in their stripes, not their own parents, but other species of the genus. To admit this view is, as it seems to me, to reject a real for an unreal, or at least for an unknown, cause. It makes the works of God a mere mockery and deception; I would almost as soon believe with the old and ignorant cosmogonists, that fossil shells had never lived, but had been created in stone so as to mock the shells now living on the sea-shore.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Evolution doesn't speak. It's a process that people observe and interpret.

Evolution neither proves nor disproves God. It is religiously significant for people who consider a literal interpretation of certain religions. That is all.
This.

If you believe in a creator god and evolution, the process does have something to say about the way your god thinks and about its moral processes and objectives.
But also this.

Evolution seems like a really cruel way to create. Its a process that doesn't care about the survival or suffering of the individual, only the group/species as a whole. Its also a limited and haphazard way to create. There are only certain kinds of structures that evolution is capable of producing and it takes a VERY long time. The creator would need a lot of patience.
You think so? It always struck me rather elegant.
 

Reptillian

Hamburgler Extraordinaire
It always struck me rather elegant.

I agree that as a scientist I find evolution to be an extremely elegant and beautiful theory. Its a simple concept that unifies a wide range of biological phenomena and observations. The theory is to biology what the atomic theory of matter is to chemistry. If however I were a religious person who believed in a creator being that loved and cherished its creations, then I wouldn't imagine that its the best way to create. There are things humanity could create using genetic engineering and artificial intelligence, that no creator god could produce via evolution.
 
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