Midnight Pete
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St. Albert the Great is the patron saint of scientists, teacher and mentor of Thomas Aquinas and all-around righteous dude.
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Does faith cause dulling of inquizative mind
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St. Albert the Great is the patron saint of scientists, teacher and mentor of Thomas Aquinas and all-around righteous dude.
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I disagree.
To run with your analogy, I think Dawkins is like a person who's been raised listening to folk tunes, now confronted with people who claim that because he's not talking about classical music, he's not really talking about music.
Every one of his descriptions of faith really do apply to beliefs that people actually hold. They may not be universal, and he may sometimes paint with a bit too wide a brush, but I think that the religious positions he describes are mainstream and popular.
The OP asks: Does faith cause dulling the inquisitive mind?
For many of us you are answering that question quite convincingly, although maybe not the way your posts are intended to?
Midnight Pete
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Go on.
Erebus
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Faith, like worship, is a word I have great difficulty with since I see how both can be useful, but consider the general approach to them to be flawed. Both can be used constructively, but both can also result in unnecessary baggage or even dangerous and destructive behaviour.
As a general rule I would say that faith dulls your ability to think objectively about whatever you have faith in. The difficult part is in turning this to your advantage.
As a general rule I would say that faith dulls your ability to think objectively about whatever you have faith in. The difficult part is in turning this to your advantage.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
youthful drug binges on the other hand......
Looncall
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Some time ago, I listened to a radio program about a muslim school. A child asked why tigers have stripes. The teacher's response was that tigers have stripes because allah did it. This was a classic example of faith-based thinking stifling laudable curiosity.
outhouse
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ellenjanuary
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That's a cool one. Tigers and zebras both have stripes because of how the other sees... BBC rawks... never mind. I got my faith back... I'm all dull now. 
Nah. I'd have to say it's dogma... not the movie, however... Who's house? Ron's house! ...Who's house? Ron's house!...
Nevermind. I'm done here...
Nah. I'd have to say it's dogma... not the movie, however... Who's house? Ron's house! ...Who's house? Ron's house!...
Nevermind. I'm done here...
Flypurplehamster
New Member
Faith is the idea of believing something without backing without question. The moment you consider this a good thing, you will try to do it more often. So answer? Of course.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Faith itself doesn't dull an inquisitive mind, but the intellectual laziness which results in faith might.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
I don't really care to find out.
wa:do
wa:do
I'm actually wondering if it isn't just learning that closes kids minds. As to faith I was brought up very religous but I am very inquizitive. I ask questions in my religious classes and almost got kicked out. I finished but I also finished my religious aspirations. I am much older but still inquizitive yet I dismiss things easier now.
I am trying to decide if it is intellect or nature that is causing it. It is not faith as I have no religous affiliation.
David M
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That's a cool one. Tigers and zebras both have stripes because of how the other sees... BBC rawks... never mind. I got my faith back... I'm all dull now.
Must have excellent eyesight then, as they live on separate continents
ellenjanuary
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:foot:Must have excellent eyesight then, as they live on separate continents
but it's how predators and prey see each other... I'm thinking... what'd ya want, I saw it last year! I've been reading the Bible since then!
Looncall
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:foot:
but it's how predators and prey see each other... I'm thinking... what'd ya want, I saw it last year! I've been reading the Bible since then!
(my bolding)
Ah, that explains it. Maybe you should stop doing that before your mind seizes up.
I am middle aged yet still question the world in which I live. I have been to a number of churches and each defines faith in its own way, and yes, many do provide a doctrine of right thoughts, behaviors and actions that stem from their definition of faith. Definitions and doctrines do dull the inquisative child's mind. Faith in itself does not. Faith is universal to all of us free of charge to define in our own way and we always live our lives as an example of what we believe. Accepting faith as defined by doctrine is no faith at all simply because it DOES cost us. We sacrifice our inherited Free Will when we accept doctrines of faith. We sacrifice our inquizative Child's Mind. Faith cannot be properly defined or indoctrinated because it is so deeply personal. When we can share our personal understanding of faith with each other without condition, judgement or correction, then collectively we will have a better understanding of what faith is. The inquizative Child's Mind will be preserved. I believe children understand faith better then we adults do. I preserve my own Child's Mind by looking to children for Wisdom.
ellenjanuary
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No sir. On November of 2005; some fool tried to jack my CD unit. Just 'cause that fool had a gun; but he didn't recognize, my Gwynnies gave me that CD unit.
Obviously, I'm still here flapping my gums. Faith is more. Faith is the sum total of a thinking organism's existence; boiled down to five letters when extra glyphs, get a fool shot.
And absolutely, positively NOT! Four years following that adventure, I refused to leave my house after dark; except like twelve times. I owed that fool a killin', and I didn't wanna do it.
Good thing? Guy comes up to me, says; "give me a hand?" Know what I say?
I'll kill you. The only way to make the boo-boo go away, with absolute certainty; is to end. Been there. Done that. Still here. Still love.
ellenjanuary
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Really.
I mean, I like the Bible (ain't no tao, but...); but the thing about it... It gets heavy.
What kind of Holy Library has a Book entitled "Lamentations?" Begins with Job getting worked? Ends with.. what does it end with, anyway?
I mean, it has secret knowledge... like The Chronicles of Riddick...