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Does God Evolve?

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What is relevant is how the concept of God in Western culture has evolved. First, he was the angry, jealous, judgmental, vengeful, genocidal god of the Old testament, then the gentle god of the New Testament, and now we see this god evolving further, as when we are often told that His hell is just a metaphor for separation. He would never be that mean.
That poses is an interesting question: Is it our concept of god that has evolved, or has our collective sense of morality evolved god's followers?
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
In Advaita view, aren't these two statements contradictory? If the forms of finite wisdom are the same as Brahman, how can Brahman be infinite wisdom?
Good question. Brahman intentionally limits sparks of His consciousness by animating finite living forms to experience the joys and struggles of finiteness. A spark of Brahman animating a finite mouse’s brain does not experience its infiniteness at that time.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Is God, in your view, an unchanging, static being? Or does God evolve as the universe, spirituality and religion evolve?

This article suggests that God is not static and is an evolving being.

Does God Evolve? - Theosophical Society in America

Thoughts and comments?


God/Love as an action itself does not involve, or evolve. God's/Love's forms changes.

I AM that i am.

to be or not to be, that is the question.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
God/Love as an action itself does not involve, or evolve. God's/Love's forms changes.

I AM that i am.

to be or not to be, that is the question.

Moving past Shakespeare and Popeye...

Please elaborate on how God is an action.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
In my experience we can't know if God somehow changes. What we can know is that the experience seems to have been described the same from ancient times to today.
 

12jtartar

Active Member
Premium Member
Is God, in your view, an unchanging, static being? Or does God evolve as the universe, spirituality and religion evolve?

This article suggests that God is not static and is an evolving being.

Does God Evolve? - Theosophical Society in America

Thoughts and comments?

Salixlncendium,
God positively does not evolve, and neither does the any of His creation!!! God is the Ultimate in every good quality, what would he evolve to?? Malachi 3:6, James 1:17.
The first chapter of Genesis states an everlasting truth, Genesis 1:11,12,21,24,24,25. Here the Bible states that all living things reproduce, Only after their Kinds, which makes evolution impossible. This is a scientific fact, called Prestabilism, and even though mankind has tried to break this Law, it cannot be done!!! The changes that take place within a Kind is called Ontogenetic changes.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
Salixlncendium,
God positively does not evolve, and neither does the any of His creation!!!

How are you defining God's creation?

God is the Ultimate in every good quality, what would he evolve to?? Malachi 3:6, James 1:17.
The first chapter of Genesis states an everlasting truth, Genesis 1:11,12,21,24,24,25. Here the Bible states that all living things reproduce, Only after their Kinds, which makes evolution impossible.

How are you defining "Kinds?"

This is a scientific fact, called Prestabilism, and even though mankind has tried to break this Law, it cannot be done!!! The changes that take place within a Kind is called Ontogenetic changes.

Prestabilism is a scientific fact? Please post a link to a peer reviewed study.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Plain as day the god of the bible evolves.

Look at all the rules in the Tanakh, the Torah in particular, that Christians and many Jews no longer observe, like not cutting your beard, and on and on.

Perhaps a number of other examples loom a bit larger in the present age ─

Saturday used to be the day of rest; but now the god of Christians prefers Sunday.

God used to think slavery was great, and set out rules about how to do it. Jesus was also cool with it, at least to the extent of never mentioning it himself, but telling Paul to tell slaves that if you're going to be a slave, be the best slave you can be.

God used to be an outrageously butch homophobe. But now his views on the subject seem to be maturing, and same-sex marriage is now normalized in many countries and recognized by a certain number of Christian churches.

He used to think polygamy was fine if you were high enough up the social scale to afford it. But in the West he's backed away from that view.

He used to think it was fine for men to divorce women but not the other way round. Jesus had a different view: marriage, he thought, was a life sentence. Now they've both seen the light, at least according to those churches who've noticed that keeping divorced folk out of church is bad for business.

He'll keep changing. The alternative is losing his public.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
In my experience we can't know if God somehow changes.

How many things that actually exist can one make that comment about?

How about the axial tilt of the earth relative to the plane of its orbit around the sun?

How about the population of the Netherlands?

How about the speed of light in a vacuum?

How about America's national debt?

How about the mean temperature of our planet?

How about angels?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Moving past Shakespeare and Popeye...

Please elaborate on how God is an action.
it's a movement, a dance

exodus 3:14 . a tree is known by it's fruit and not by it's form.

There is no greater god in all the world than that of a friend.

And the Scripture was fulfilled, saying, "And Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him for righteousness," and he was called a friend of God.

I yam what i yam.

https://www.amazon.com/God-Verb-Kabbalah-Practice-Mystical/dp/1573226947
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
If God/Brahman is experiencing, isn't It then perceiving, learning and growing, and thereby evolving?

Though it may be hard to get our heads wrapped around it, I think we have to divorce ourselves from the idea that Brahman is an entity; that it is something other than om tat sat: "that which is". That said, because reality changes and evolves, maybe we can say that Brahman evolves.

Now where's my Excedrin, because I just gave myself a bangeroo of a headache. :D
 

Baroodi

Active Member
No he doesn't . evolving is needed by the imperfect. Allah is perfectly integrated. Simply the universe remains the same in its units although expanding. humans used to live much longer and now human survival is much shorter. there is no new versions from the sun or moon etc...
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
How many things that actually exist can one make that comment about?
Has inspiration changed from today to the time of Athene democracy? To us reading about it, it doesn't seem like much has changed. Did the laws of physics change from before the BB? There is speculation. Have the BBs changed, if there have been multiple.. have they been different? If we can't comment about it if they've changed, are they real?

Whether God's changed or evolved at least some of the mystics and gnostics are reaching the same point. It's like a destination, but there's no shirts to buy. Only the destruction of some of our beliefs and views is proof we've been there. When you get there you realize this was what they were talking about. If somethings changed about it, it's nothing we can observe.
 
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