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"Sorry, you really need me to answer that question? Are you living in a cave?"
wow, you know sooo much about me, would it suprise you if you learned that i haven't read the whole bible?and haven't even read more than 100 pages in a row?
again, you know soooo much about me!(btw, just how many books have i read?)wow, would you tell me when i'm gonna die?
fair enough i suppose?...just like you swallow w/e science claims.
hah?does it matter what he looked like?did anything exist before photography?of course not!that's preposterous!
not at all, we've earned it.
like when we combat eachother?or combat demons?or has some christian told you these weren't 'god's creations too?hah
a man once had a fantasy, his name was darwin.
some christians, yeah, and if they were even to profess otherwise, what do you think would of happened to them?you think they might of been killed?many church fathers of old times were wrong.
if that's how you define science, then nothing, i am speaking of it's inconsistant speculations and (general)constant denial of anything it can't grasp with our carnal senses.
That doesn't surprise me at all. The people who really surprise me are those who have read the entire thing and still believe it.
Darwin believed in God?
All I 'know' with 100% certainty is that I know nothing with 100% certainty. However, we can use evidence to give us an idea of how likely it is that some things are true, and others are not. 
Aw, true blood! Don't say that! I am terribly inspired!
Well if we agree, why are we arguing?
i said 'if'(hypotheticalizing[a word?] the proceding text).i have read the whole 'bible'
i don't hope/desire for it, i would soooo very much rather not have to worry about the consequences of my actions beyond this life, honestly.do you find this odd even though i don't believe in hell?it is based upon faith, i don't know or hang around religeous people often, and i was brought up by quite the opposite.
well since we've never seen evolution, that is another leprechaun as well.
beauty is in the eye of the beholder, everything is proof of a supreme being to believers.
If it's a fool's hope, then we're all fools, or at least have been at some time.
Think about this: what you're saying, is that a prerequisite for believing in tongues, is believing that god can make someone speak in tongues. Basically, if you believe god can make someone do it, you already believe in it. Does that make sense?
On this website, there is a Creationist's Museum that contains the London Artifact, an alleged 'fossilized' hammer in precambrian rock. Let's get a second opinion on this one: http://members.aol.com/paluxy2/hammer.htmHelpMe said:
Actually, that belief was already made popular by Christianity. Christian dogma has held that the Earth is the center of the universe, that we have a soul and all other life does not, and that everything in nature exists for the sake of mankind. Evolutionary theory doesn't exalt mankind, it puts him in his humble place.
Ah, but this is exactly my point--faith has nothing to do with evidence. I think faith is a psychological excuse we give ourselves when the real world doesn't compliment our imagined one.
Actually, we can see evolution. But this is not the thread to debate evolution.
In other words, people with a strong confirmation bias will interpret everything to confirm their a priori beliefs. Check out: http://www.skepdic.com/confirmbias.html
Ah, but in the Book of Spinkle, chapter 1,508, verse 761, it says "And lo, people will write things, lots of things, and many will believe it blindly".
he said she said, ok.so how old do you think the hammer is?does your carbon dating apply here?
My non-expert opinion is that the hammer looks remarkably like the kinds of hammers miners used in the 19th and early 20th centuries, and I don't see any evidence that suggests it is millions of years old.HelpMe said:
Nice recovery, but you completely ignored the point I made regarding the Christian tradition of the supremacy of man, which earlier you accused Darwin of "making popular".
Finally, we agree on something!
But I do have another lie to add: that Darwin "made popular the belief that we are the supreme beings of the universe".Thanks for putting words in my mouth. I didn't use the word "faith" I used the word "think", and I mean exactly what I said. Faith has nothing to do with thinking.
Here is the evidence supporting my opinion, from http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=faith: Faith is... "Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence." I grow tired of theists trying to prove to me that I have "faith". A degree of confidence gained from evidence that something is true is entirely different from the kind of religious faith that is totally unreliant upon evidence.If you want to debate evolution, please go to the appropriate thread.
Yes. Please go to an evolution thread to discuss this more if you feel so inclined.
What you seem to be suggesting is that I can confidently believe in the existence of invisible pink unicorns, because who knows? We might find evidence for them someday!
Dinosaurs and electricity were discovered by scientific investigation (i.e. using our brains) by the way, not by reading ancient Hebrew text.
Actually, to be completely accurate, dinosaur fossils and electricity DID exist before we found them. Just because we haven't seen or observed something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'm sure there is some species of insect somewhere that we don't know of yet. As I speak, a swarm of them is probably devouring a rotting animal or something. Our lack of evidence in them cannot take away the fact that they are actively living and interacting with the world. It's like the old question of: "If a tree crashes down in the middle of the forest and no one is present to hear the noise, does it still make a sound?" It absolutely does. Just because no one was there to hear it, doesn't mean it didn't generate sound waves which could have been measured had someone played witness.
