Does God really care about our earthly sins

[dfnj]

An omnipotent God needs absolutely NOTHING from us. It's not like God is going to die if not enough people worship God in the so called "correct" way. So I don't think it really matters whether we sin or not. I would imagine a creator God loves every facet of His creation equally since it's His creation like a fine piece of artwork. I would imagine an omnipotent God gets to experience the thrill of having limitations by sharing our experiences of joys and frustrations (being omnipotent is boring). As far as I can tell, based on human experiments, there is no amount of evil God will NOT tolerate in order to preserve our free-will to choose to behave badly. So, again, since God needs nothing from us, and God seems to tolerate every possible act of evil we act out on each other, it seems to me one can only conclude God is not so much concerned about sin the way we self-flagellate about it.

I would go even further and say a creator God would love us unconditionally. If an omnipotent God of unconditional love does not care about our earthly sins, then I believe everyone gets to go through the gates of heaven to experience eternal heavenly bliss. When we die, we all enter the gates of heaven as each of us turns into the light at the end of our life's tunnel to have our final experience of looking into the face of God and experiencing God's infinite beauty. Time ceases to exist and our consciousness returns back to the source from which it was born. Everyone is saved. All you have to do is show up and you get to have the greatest possible experience of your life!

So in order to be saved all you have to do is have faith in a creator God of unconditional love. I know faith can be challenging and many of you will not be able to put such a huge blind trust in this type of God without any guarantees or evidence. Thinking for ourselves about our own salvation is probably the most difficult thing any of us can do because everyone is so afraid, uncertain, and full of doubts. But if you let the power of faith compel you then you will have enough courage to choose to have faith in a creator God of unconditional love.

 

[ameyAtmA]

He says He is untouched, detached by karma of living creatures (Bhagvad Geeta Chapter 5) , but by behaving in a way that harms or creates imbalance to oneself and society, the creatures are shooting themselves in the foot and not progressing towards their own freedom.

So He says : your karma ==> you face consequence - good or bad, not out of My prejudice, but scientifically becs it creates strong impressions in you which shape your future self. I am here for you. If you want my help, shelter, guidance, I will gently guide you and not let you get de-railed from the track. Ultimately the step has to be taken by you, decision is yours.

Otherwise the Supreme remains a mere Witness (sAkshI)... until such a time that miscreants are significantly harming sAdhus - good beings. It is then that He will intervene to protect the righteous and punish the wicked. (Bhagvad Gita Chap 4)

It is all about [re-]learning. So if we make a mistake, we learn from it for our own good.

If you are God's devotee, and making mistakes and facing results, He will feel bad for you in a detached way at His level, and want you to improve. He will supply the intelligence to make right decisions. This is why devotion.

Bhagvad Geeta Chapter 9 shlok 22: For those who are devoted to Me selflessly (which automatically implies trying to live in a way that He will like), I supply what they lack, and preserve what they have.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Psalms 11:5.

Jehovah will act against the wicked, in His own due time.
Meanwhile, the innocent suffer, if at all, only 70 to 80 years... then they RIP, until the Resurrection. John 5:28-29; John 6:40

 

[Father Heathen]

It doesn't make sense to me that some infinitely vast cosmic being would work themselves into a frothing rage over some primate creatures on some far-flung mud ball dressing themselves up in mixed fabrics.

 

[ERLOS]

It is my personal.belief that sin is what comes between me experiencing God. It is inherent in the 'coats of skin' of Adam and Eve. The original sin of being born from the Spiritual into the Natural dimension. It's the choice between wanting God or mammon.

God draws me closer the more I learn to want/need only God. I naturally discover that some things work to prevent it.

If I hurt someone else, it's like I hurt myself.

 

[ERLOS]

I don't need threat of eternal punishment in the hereafter. Punishment is being separated from the knowledge of God's help and presence here and now.

 

[danieldemol]

I believe that in the same way we develop physical attributes in the womb in preparation for this world, in this world we develop spiritual qualities or attributes in preparation for the next world.

So there maybe some people born spiritually stunted into the next world, but I hope and trust that the mercy of God is great enough that it will eventually override God’s justice and bring about their full spiritual maturity eventually.

 

[ERLOS]

Hell is separation from God? Eternity is the fact that time/space are the walls of this room of nature we briefly inhabit within the infinite halls of Spirit. My Father's house has many mansions?

Spirit surrounds and contains and fully permeates nature. 'The greater wheel of Spirit turns the lesser wheel of Nature but is not turned by it.'

 

[stvdv]

Hypothetical: a)Heaven and Gates of Heaven exist + b)God exists

I would go even further and say a creator God would love us unconditionally

God Loves unconditional. That is what my Master and my Scriptures tell. And my Common Sense also.

I believe everyone gets to go through the gates of heaven to experience eternal heavenly bliss

That would be the definition of Unconditional Love. If 1 is allowed through the Gate then all are allowed

So in order to be saved all you have to do is have faith in a creator God of unconditional love

Unconditional you just said "No need to have faith in a creator God even IMHO

 

[PureX]

Our 'sins' define us. Our willingness to 'sin' defines us. Our 'repentance of sin' defines us. God gave us the autonomy to define ourselves through our relationship with 'sin'. What we become as a result, I think, is pretty much our own doing.

 

[BSM1]

Our 'sins' define us. Our willingness to 'sin' defines us. Our 'repentance of sin' defines us. God gave us the autonomy to define ourselves through our relationship with 'sin'. What we become as a result, I think, is pretty much our own doing.

This ties in nicely with Isaiah 45:7 when God defines Itself as the Creator of Everything, including evil. The Creator of everything would probably put no more weight or importance on one thing as She would another; at least that's how I take it.

 

[shunyadragon]

An omnipotent God needs absolutely NOTHING from us.

Actually in a way true, but this assumption you are making basically leads to the conclusion that a theist God does not exist. The existence of an omnipotent is not dependent on anything, including us from Creation.

It's not like God is going to die if not enough people worship God in the so called "correct" way. So I don't think it really matters whether we sin or not. I would imagine a creator God loves every facet of His creation equally since it's His creation like a fine piece of artwork. I would imagine an omnipotent God gets to experience the thrill of having limitations by sharing our experiences of joys and frustrations (being omnipotent is boring). As far as I can tell, based on human experiments, there is no amount of evil God will NOT tolerate in order to preserve our free-will to choose to behave badly. So, again, since God needs nothing from us, and God seems to tolerate every possible act of evil we act out on each other, it seems to me one can only conclude God is not so much concerned about sin the way we self-flagellate about it.

Your basing this on the ancient anthropomorphic hands on God of ancient scriptures, which reflects an ancient human view of God, and not a truly universal Omnipotent God.

I would go even further and say a creator God would love us unconditionally. If an omnipotent God of unconditional love does not care about our earthly sins, then I believe everyone gets to go through the gates of heaven to experience eternal heavenly bliss. When we die, we all enter the gates of heaven as each of us turns into the light at the end of our life's tunnel to have our final experience of looking into the face of God and experiencing God's infinite beauty. Time ceases to exist and our consciousness returns back to the source from which it was born. Everyone is saved. All you have to do is show up and you get to have the greatest possible experience of your life!

This may or may not be the ultimate destiny of the soul IF God exists, but it would be very egocentric if you could define the destiny of the soul from God's perspective.

From the Baha'i perspective the souls journey is through many worlds, and the sincerity of the individual in this world that influences journey in worlds beyond this world. Creation including humanity reflects the attributes of God and not a dependency of God on the nature and behavior of fallible humans in this world.

Baha'i means 'follower of light,' and the greater the light in this world, the journey in worlds after this world is more illumined. As with the individual developing in the womb attributes for this world, through following the light we may develop spiritual attributes for journeys in the worlds beyond ours.

So in order to be saved all you have to do is have faith in a creator God of unconditional love. I know faith can be challenging and many of you will not be able to put such a huge blind trust in this type of God without any guarantees or evidence. Thinking for ourselves about our own salvation is probably the most difficult thing any of us can do because everyone is so afraid, uncertain, and full of doubts. But if you let the power of faith compel you then you will have enough courage to choose to have faith in a creator God of unconditional love.

In the Baha'i Faith this unconditional love is universal is the relationship of the Creator to our physical existence and humanity, and not selective to one religion, church nor belief system.
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[`mud]

The Cosmos is not concerned with the petty sins of man, it has more important things to do,
like galaxies colliding, neutrinos fracturing, stars expanding, and new beginnings forming.
Since I don't sin, I have nothing to fear except those that do sin, and their beliefs in their `gods`.
So...I'll enjoy my Life and the Stuff that it brings, and when the end comes, I'll join the Cosmos.
Join you all there, I hope.

 

[Truthseeker]

I don't need threat of eternal punishment in the hereafter. Punishment is being separated from the knowledge of God's help and presence here and now.

That's what hell is, being separated from God's presence.