I believe that God would know when to apply grace and when to apply punishment, but I do not believe that God conquers or redeems anyone. I believe we have to have to redeem ourselves. I am also not of the belief that punishment is for the purpose of rectifying souls but rather it is for the sake of justice for what is deserved, just as the reward of heaven is for based upon what is earned.
I do not believe that there is eternal punishment forever and ever. I believe everyone has a chance of getting to heaven, but I do not think God redeems anyone. God might by his mercy accept someone into heaven, which is really nearness to Him, but that would be by God's choice, and not something anyone can count on.
I have been accused of believing that but I do not believe it.
You just hit the nail on the head. that is exactly how I see it.
Mercy is the flip side of justice. Justice is earned, mercy is freely given.
I do not want them to linger there forever either, but if that is where they want to be then that is not really a punishment, it is just allowing them to be where they are comfortable. If hell is distance from God, which is what I believe, then I do not believe God forces anyone to draw near to Him and they will remain in hell by choice.
I do not think it is a matter of whether it is 'necessary'. but rather it is a matter of whether or not it exists. I do not think anyone has the answer to this question even though many believers think they know based upon their scriptures. I tend to think there is no hell that is without end but I don't really know.
That would be easier and preferable for them but what will happen in is not based upon what we want; it is based upon how God set it up.
That is what I would want to see too, a chance for them to 'see the light' and change, after punishment and realization of what they had done evil in this life, which would also be the punishment.
By the way, it is good to see you again osgart, it's been a while now.
I hope you are safe and well. These are tough times.