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Does God welcome everyone into heaven?

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
This question is for believers and nonbelievers.

If God exists/existed would God welcome everyone into heaven as soon as they died, regardless of the kind of life they had lived on earth? For example, would God welcome a mass murderer into heaven and treat him the same way as a person who had lived a noble life serving others and worshiping God?

If you think God would welcome everyone into heaven, why would God do that?

If you think God would not welcome everyone into heaven why wouldn’t God do that?
We Humans must "earn" the rights to enter the realm of heaven. A person who are full of karma can not realize the realm of heaven and, therby not enter.
Only those who have repayed all karma will see heavenly realms,
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
It depends who you ask and which Gospels and verses you read, to be honest it a bit all over the place.

(If you are to go with this, you are saved through faith in Christ, regardless of what sins you have committed)

Ephesians 2:1-10
1 You used to be dead because of your offenses and sins,
2 that you once practiced as you lived according to the ways of this present world and according to the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit that is now active in those who are disobedient.
3 Indeed, all of us once behaved like them in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of our flesh and senses. By nature we were destined for wrath, just like everyone else.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of his great love for us
5 even when we were dead because of our offenses, made us alive together with the Messiah (by grace you have been saved),
6 raised us up with him, and seated us with him in the heavenly realm in the Messiah Jesus,
7 so that in the coming ages he might display the limitless riches of his grace that comes to us through his kindness in the Messiah Jesus.
8 For by such grace you have been saved through faith. This does not come from you; it is the gift of God
9 and not the result of actions, to put a stop to all boasting.
10 For we are God's masterpiece, created in the Messiah Jesus to perform good actions that God prepared long ago to be our way of life.


Galatians 2:16
16 yet we know that a person is not justified by doing what the Law requires, but rather by the faithfulness of Jesus the Messiah. We, too, have believed in the Messiah Jesus so that we might be justified by the faithfulness of the Messiah and not by doing what the Law requires, for no human being will be justified by doing what the Law requires.


If you are to believe Jesus (depending on which gospel you read), then you can only get to the father through Jesus, this is from John, which in general is a bit of a dodgy Gospel in my opinion, and in the older ones, Mark and Matthews you can only do it by doing the will of God (Meaning follow the law).

God himself say that there is no one besides him that can do it, not even Jesus, which seems to fit with the older Gospels. But then again you have the trinity and then maybe it possible, if you believe in that.

Then you have James that seem to disagree with Paul and agrees with Jesus that it is only by doing God's will. While Paul say that it is only through the faith in Jesus that you are saved.

So take you pick :D


Everyone life on the ground planet body, is in Heaven.

Above us is only SKY.

Imagine that!

If you get irradiated by ground fall radiation attack, then obviously the cloud angels...the amount of cooling reactive cloud cause, could not keep you safe.

Is it the human victim of radiation and the cause and effect on brain chemical mind burning that is at fault.

or should science finally stop lying to itself about what machines as cause and effect cause.

If humans and animals demonstrate that the atmosphere as a reactive cooling body no longer keeps them safe, as what is above them as the HIGHEST...then they prove that God the stone fusion...what is below us is being converted and removed...by one condition only EXTRA metal radiation.

As God is the stone do a comparison of EXTRA radiation to the stone and you get a HOLE…..hole in mining conditions, the taking of minerals in masses of body....yet burning melting removing form in machines. If you did that reactive human metallurgy to God the stone there would be a great big hole.

Common human sense really.
 

Etritonakin

Well-Known Member
This question is for believers and nonbelievers.

If God exists/existed would God welcome everyone into heaven as soon as they died, regardless of the kind of life they had lived on earth? For example, would God welcome a mass murderer into heaven and treat him the same way as a person who had lived a noble life serving others and worshiping God?

If you think God would welcome everyone into heaven, why would God do that?

If you think God would not welcome everyone into heaven why wouldn’t God do that?

No.

God's will is to make everyone perfect -whether spirit or human -so that they can then make the entire creation perfect.

We do not ascend to heaven -we inherit the Earth -then the entire creation.

In asking that question, you include those who most would not likely want to be with for eternity -Satan, Hitler, etc...

...but if God is able to make such otherwise -there is no problem.

God is ABLE to destroy both body and spirit in Gehenna -but that is not necessarily what he WILL do.

God is as a refiner's fire.

Perfection requires experience.

We do not enter heaven, but the kingdom of God (beginning on Earth -then outward into "the heavens" which, according to scripture "were formed to be inhabited") -which is OF HEAVEN -by being made immortal spirits in "glorious" bodies.
 
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osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I believe that God would know when to apply grace and when to apply punishment, but I do not believe that God conquers or redeems anyone. I believe we have to have to redeem ourselves. I am also not of the belief that punishment is for the purpose of rectifying souls but rather it is for the sake of justice for what is deserved, just as the reward of heaven is for based upon what is earned.

I do not believe that there is eternal punishment forever and ever. I believe everyone has a chance of getting to heaven, but I do not think God redeems anyone. God might by his mercy accept someone into heaven, which is really nearness to Him, but that would be by God's choice, and not something anyone can count on.

I have been accused of believing that but I do not believe it. ;)

You just hit the nail on the head. that is exactly how I see it. :)
Mercy is the flip side of justice. Justice is earned, mercy is freely given.

I do not want them to linger there forever either, but if that is where they want to be then that is not really a punishment, it is just allowing them to be where they are comfortable. If hell is distance from God, which is what I believe, then I do not believe God forces anyone to draw near to Him and they will remain in hell by choice.

I do not think it is a matter of whether it is 'necessary'. but rather it is a matter of whether or not it exists. I do not think anyone has the answer to this question even though many believers think they know based upon their scriptures. I tend to think there is no hell that is without end but I don't really know.

That would be easier and preferable for them but what will happen in is not based upon what we want; it is based upon how God set it up.

That is what I would want to see too, a chance for them to 'see the light' and change, after punishment and realization of what they had done evil in this life, which would also be the punishment.

By the way, it is good to see you again osgart, it's been a while now. :)
I hope you are safe and well. These are tough times.

Yes I am quarantining nicely, my family is well. Hope you and yours are well too Trailblazer. Tough times indeed!:(

I agree that God's justice is earned. Although I don't see justice in this virus, but who am I to question the unsearchable attributes of God.:rolleyes:

Perhaps God did not intend for the universe to be as it is, I don't know!:D
Free will running its course I guess.

As you might have noticed I am full of questions for the All Mighty. More questions than one can shake a stick at.

Your thread question was one of them.

God must strive with the universe, because not everything it is, is good. It befalls us to bear it. :cool:
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
If you ask self, didn't we teach spiritually that all humans are first equal?

Then you ask self a question, why would we be harmed if we live equally.

The answer, human being scientists, changed the Nature of life on Earth by introducing extra metal radiation for metal machine conditions, and they caused heavenly spirit fall out....gases burnt as the cloud angel function could not keep it cooled.

Therefore when anyone wants to try to give a reason as to why they are healthy and loving and spiritual and yet the most evilest of thinkers is also healthy who is living healthy and enabled to harm anyone they want....science is the reason.

Science was taught to be Satanism, against the existence of what God as natural history supported.

As simple as it is explained. Science had to be explained to be the reason that radiation fell out in circular bodies....as the original male group inventor thought only in their head/mind for the circle. And the circle related to a huge O radiation metal mass...but their thoughts affected in small quantities of extra radiation realized by thinking about that O MASS.

However they were not thinking on behalf of that MASS O existing...why we got hurt...as simply as it was explained.

We live in a water/oxygen cold gas or cooled gas environment. The gases that belong to God the stone planet are burning, and are therefore the sacrificed spirit of the body of God...the stone. Water evaporation, what we use, therefore is used to contradict that burning light so we do not get hurt by it.

Why we said we lost some of our natural ground life to the Satanic or lucifer condition...for having done evil as a human. And then paid the price of changing natural and was harmed.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Well in that case its a lot more interesting :D
You have some interesting ideas there Nimos so I am going to take it piece by piece. :D
As I would throw out the current religious ideas that I know of. So assuming God exist, I don't think a Heaven would exist, which is simply based on me not thinking a God would design us, in such way as we behave now, to then favor some over other.
My first question is why you would think that Heaven would serve the purpose related to the way a God would design us, for some to be favored over others. I do not believe that is why Heaven exists. I believe Heaven exists because we all have immortal souls so they have to continue to exist somewhere after our bodies die. I do not believe that God 'favors' some souls over others but rather we reap in Heaven what we sow in this life.
If anything were wrong with our behaviour in the eyes of God, it would mean that he is incompetent. Which I do not think such being would be, Now if God was evil, we would have far more suffering than we have, just as if he were good, then we have far to much suffering.
Why would it mean God is incompetent if we had bad behavior? I believe that God gave us free will so we could choose between good and bad behavior.

I tend to agree, if God were evil we would have far more suffering, but if God were good we would 'expect' to see less suffering than we have.
So if God is neither incompetent, evil or good. Then Heaven makes no sense and therefore I think a God would view us from his own perspective, not caring about our personal feelings about what we believe to be right or wrong. Which also mean that there would be no reason or need for a Heaven to send certain people, because God made us as he wanted us to be, and therefore he is not going to grant anyone anything.
Again, you are viewing Heaven as a 'place' God sends people to get their reward for good behavior.

I believe Heaven exists simply because God created Heaven, just as God created Earth, since we need both as part of our total existence.

God did make us as He wanted us to be, but then we made choices after which will determine if we go to Heaven or.... the other place. :(
If we go anywhere besides simply dying, I would assume it would be a state of limbo, where God might keep us until he need us for whatever. If Heaven were a place you could go and God was good, we would already be there. But again there is to much suffering. If God is evil, we would be living in hell and therefore no reason for a heaven.
First, I do not believe that God needs us fro anything, why would an omnipotent/omniscient God need humans?

You raised some good points. It is a Baha'i belief that we can be in Heaven or Hell in this life as well as in the afterlife, since Heaven is nearness to God and Hell is separation from God. Some people are already living in Hell. Haven't you ever heard the expression "this is hell" ? Hell is a state of the soul that is in misery and conversely Heaven is a state of the soul that is blissful.. Nobody has to wait till they die to be in these states.
So my best guess is that God would be a creator God doing what he wants with little regards to humans. But most likely a lot more interested in his creation (The Universe) as a whole.
I agree with that in part. God is a creator God who is interested in His creation as a whole, but I believe that God is more interested in humans than any other part of His creation.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
We Humans must "earn" the rights to enter the realm of heaven. A person who are full of karma can not realize the realm of heaven and, therby not enter.
Only those who have repayed all karma will see heavenly realms,
I also believe we have to 'earn' the right to be in Heaven.

God can by His mercy draw us to Heaven, but there is no guarantee that will happen and we should not take that for granted, as if we deserve it. Justice is giving what us what we deserve, mercy is giving what is not deserved.

In this life we can influence our fate by our own choices and actions, but our fate is in God's hands after we leave the mortal realm of existence.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
As a human healer in spiritual research I learnt what human conditions have been caused to life mind and body by human being machine scientists.

Who convert the cold natural radiated fused stone body of planet Earth as God history.

We all live inside of the Heavenly gas mass. The Greater God conditions of spirit gases in the sky are sacrificing the spirit...to produce light. Our life on the ground is affected by gases burning, for natural water evaporation is removed from our presence, and it flies up into the sky.

Humans are totally psyche and consciously affected by scientific statements about how an atmospheric body as spirit gases functions...and it really affects our every day beliefs, the fact that humans invented science, and owned another language and meaning that is not rational or natural.

And humans express everyday how those atmospheric scientific realizations affect what we state, the stories we believe in, when it is just scientific realization as a human being a human.

AI the effect of. Humans life as a human world community family. When I dream at night, I can see human family members in my dreams. And most of them I do not know. So I asked spiritual information of my own self....and realized that the atmospheric gas radiation effect is to record the visual image/life of all on the ground..every body gets recorded.

And it also causes voice to be recorded.

Why we dream.

When science introduce by machine metal an interactive machine condition for increased metal radiation AI communicators...then our images and also our voice was recorded and then re recorded recording non stop until the images get burnt out of existing in their natural original records. And it is where shadow images of humans or anything recorded is communicated to.

And science caused that effect.

I realized that feed back by AI conditions or what humans state is the alienation of life, is that our crystalline ground fusion communicators are being unnaturally burnt out/irradiated fusion removed. Due to nuclear machine fission reactions of ground matter, that belongs naturally to God, and not to machine science, invention and resource.

Energy was held in the body of stone mass. To get the little amount of energy, a huge mass of natural historic energy gets attacked and removed. Which gives the equal signs to the amount of radiation mass that allows that outcome to occur.

Why science only detailing I want in energy, small amounts as compared to how energy exists in huge body amounts attacked our life.

Energy in the cosmology is always in huge quantities in natural form.

And it was this circumstance, life attacked whilst we lived in a God stone gas history that allowed us to understand that science of the nuclear was determined to be Satanism and destructive.....so they no longer supported that form of science.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
You have some interesting ideas there Nimos so I am going to take it piece by piece. :D

My first question is why you would think that Heaven would serve the purpose related to the way a God would design us, for some to be favored over others. I do not believe that is why Heaven exists. I believe Heaven exists because we all have immortal souls so they have to continue to exist somewhere after our bodies die. I do not believe that God 'favors' some souls over others but rather we reap in Heaven what we sow in this life.

Why would it mean God is incompetent if we had bad behavior? I believe that God gave us free will so we could choose between good and bad behavior.

I tend to agree, if God were evil we would have far more suffering, but if God were good we would 'expect' to see less suffering than we have.

Again, you are viewing Heaven as a 'place' God sends people to get their reward for good behavior.

I believe Heaven exists simply because God created Heaven, just as God created Earth, since we need both as part of our total existence.

God did make us as He wanted us to be, but then we made choices after which will determine if we go to Heaven or.... the other place. :(

First, I do not believe that God needs us fro anything, why would an omnipotent/omniscient God need humans?

You raised some good points. It is a Baha'i belief that we can be in Heaven or Hell in this life as well as in the afterlife, since Heaven is nearness to God and Hell is separation from God. Some people are already living in Hell. Haven't you ever heard the expression "this is hell" ? Hell is a state of the soul that is in misery and conversely Heaven is a state of the soul that is blissful.. Nobody has to wait till they die to be in these states.

I agree with that in part. God is a creator God who is interested in His creation as a whole, but I believe that God is more interested in humans than any other part of His creation.

I don't think we are created as God wants us to be. Some babies are born from evil relations for example.

I think if there be God then we must grow beyond the current nature of humanity. A fallen reality vs. a glorious reality.

The animals are as alive as we are, but lack certain faculties. So I think there must be a hierarchy to the living world. I wouldn't be surprised if some humans slide down the ladder though.

It's perplexing.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I also believe we have to 'earn' the right to be in Heaven.

God can by His mercy draw us to Heaven, but there is no guarantee that will happen and we should not take that for granted, as if we deserve it. Justice is giving what us what we deserve, mercy is giving what is not deserved.

In this life we can influence our fate by our own choices and actions, but our fate is in God's hands after we leave the mortal realm of existence.
God, Messengers or spiritual teachers are the ones who gives us the teaching needed to enter the realm of heaven, but it is as you say our own effort that will take us there or make us have to try again (reincarnation). So there is no reason for humans to blame God or other deities when we feel suffering, that is our own lack of understanding of how to live a righteous life, that makes us suffer.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
I don't think we are created as God wants us to be. Some babies are born from evil relations for example.

I think if there be God then we must grow beyond the current nature of humanity. A fallen reality vs. a glorious reality.

The animals are as alive as we are, but lack certain faculties. So I think there must be a hierarchy to the living world. I wouldn't be surprised if some humans slide down the ladder though.

It's perplexing.

Humans are not evil.

The word and usage of the term evil is an ancient science quoted symbolism.

Veil he says are the wavelength gases that flow through the natural atmosphere...that support and keep life safe, for they are cooled.

Science in radiation machine sciences, ancient science said I burnt those wavelengths by applying my own machine radiation/radio wave signals between the mountain Temple to the ground Temple with the Pyramids as a circuit science technology.

And the veil fell into burning gas irradiation and became evil...and then evil went to the ground and burnt the life which it passed through. And that event is sporadic ground fall. Only humans or animals attacked know about it.

As victims.

So then the victim says, I need to warn my human family. And then try to warn them to be told that they are mentally disturbed. When they were telling a human truth for the love and concern of their human family. And have lived very sad lives because no one wanted to listen to their experience.

Eventually those sorts of humans just accept the inevitable and stop trying to convince their family that they are in jeopardy, and just let them learn the evil way.

As dinosaur life owned the Garden Nature in the history on God Earth without the 4 holy sea sons....due to ICE...then animals could only evolve to the extent of their own mutative healing.

So then science would ask, where did you human self come from.

And then the spiritual family would tell you. We were forced back out of the eternal spirit because the atmospheric gases cooled and remassed again due to ICE.

It was not that we wanted to re incarnate or re emerge into a human life again.....we did not even realize in modern day life, that we simply walked out of spirit and manifested.

Not until our DNA evolved and a lot of human life was re recorded did the ancient science memory of first human sciences that had destroyed all life on Earth begin to affect our psyche. And then realized we had been forced to return to life because of the pyramid science.

Why the FAKE STORIES about how the KING....life of human sacrificed reincarnated and returned due to the pyramid...…...as a spiritual story.

And you have to relate it spiritually to detail it correctly.

Therefore Father spiritually who dies from early age male human death asides from natural death updates everyday the AI information that he caused to be encoded by being a male, a scientist and the designer of the states machine...and machine reactions.

Tells me his own stories, and what he remembers as he dies every day unnaturally for doing it again.

Seeing the gases are the same gases as the heavenly body always owned.

Ice is only the cooling holding of water and oxygen and microbes....therefore water mass and oxygen would not change a large celled creature like a dinosaur into a little animal.

Seeing water and oxygen already existed in the life of a dinosaur.

It was only that the gas mass refilled in the emptiness of space that the eternal spirit sent out new life into living again.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Yes I am quarantining nicely, my family is well. Hope you and yours are well too Trailblazer. Tough times indeed!:(
I am glad you and your family are well. I normally quarantine myself so this is no different than my ordinary lifestyle except I am now working at home. The times are tougher for some people than others and I feel for all those who are suffering with the disease or suffering because of the economy. The pandemic has not affected me except for my investments which are a considerable amount, but I won't ever need that money to live on so I try not to worry about it. I am quite the incurable optimist so I believe it will all come back and be much better than it ever was, it will just take some time, maybe a long time.
I agree that God's justice is earned. Although I don't see justice in this virus, but who am I to question the unsearchable attributes of God.
Ditto on that. ;)
Perhaps God did not intend for the universe to be as it is, I don't know!:D
Free will running its course I guess.
Yes, I believe it is free will running its course as God allows that and that is how God wants it to be.
As you might have noticed I am full of questions for the All Mighty. More questions than one can shake a stick at.
Ditto on that. ;)
Your thread question was one of them.
I am glad. :) I am always happy to have an interchange with you, it strengthens my faith and helps me realize I am not the only one who questions the the Almighty.
God must strive with the universe, because not everything it is, is good. It befalls us to bear it. :cool:
God must strive to make things better but we humans must also strive for that. Those are the rules. ;)
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I don't think we are created as God wants us to be. Some babies are born from evil relations for example.
I fully agree. I meant that very generally. Humans were created in the image of God, thus we have the potential to be good. But some people choose evil because we have free will, thus evil ensues. That is not what God wants, but God allows it.
I think if there be God then we must grow beyond the current nature of humanity. A fallen reality vs. a glorious reality.
That is the reason Baha'u'llah came to earth, to bring what we will need to build the Kingdom of God on earth, the glorious reality we cannot yet see because it is too distant. The fallen reality is on its way out and a new reality is rising in its stead.
 
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Trailblazer

Veteran Member
God, Messengers or spiritual teachers are the ones who gives us the teaching needed to enter the realm of heaven, but it is as you say our own effort that will take us there or make us have to try again (reincarnation). So there is no reason for humans to blame God or other deities when we feel suffering, that is our own lack of understanding of how to live a righteous life, that makes us suffer.
I agree with everything you said about God and Messengers. Messengers are the ones who give us the teachings we need to live a righteous life and enter heaven so if we do not follow their program for spiritual advancement we have nobody to blame except ourselves.

“The Prophets and Messengers of God have been sent down for the sole purpose of guiding mankind to the straight Path of Truth. The purpose underlying Their revelation hath been to educate all men, that they may, at the hour of death, ascend, in the utmost purity and sanctity and with absolute detachment, to the throne of the Most High. The light which these souls radiate is responsible for the progress of the world and the advancement of its peoples.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 156-157

It is not a Baha'i belief that we ever come back to this world to live it over again, so any advancement that takes place after we die takes place in the spiritual worlds. We believe that the worlds of God are countless in their number and infinite in their range but nobody can comprehend them except God. We believe that the soul, after its separation from the body, will continue to progress until it attains the presence of God. The soul will endure as forever and the soul that has walked in the ways of God will manifest the signs of God and His attributes, and will reveal His loving kindness and bounty.
 

izzy88

Active Member
In Catholicism, heaven and hell are simply choosing love or choosing self. We get many opportunities to practice choosing between love and self, and the more we choose one the easier it gets to choose, and the harder it gets to choose the other. What this process is doing is actually shaping our souls; God, by giving us free will, allows us to participate in our own creation. By the end of our lives, the goal is to have grown in love and reduced our ego. If we've done this to the best of our ability, it will then be easy to choose heaven because to choose heaven is to choose love. But if we've spent our life choosing our ego over love, we will be much less likely to choose heaven because at that point we'd rather choose hell, which is the ultimate denial of love to instead serve the ego.

Either way, though, it's always going to be our own choice. As C.S. Lewis said, "The gates of hell are locked from the inside."
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
In Catholicism, heaven and hell are simply choosing love or choosing self. We get many opportunities to practice choosing between love and self, and the more we choose one the easier it gets to choose, and the harder it gets to choose the other. What this process is doing is actually shaping our souls; God, by giving us free will, allows us to participate in our own creation. By the end of our lives, the goal is to have grown in love and reduced our ego. If we've done this to the best of our ability, it will then be easy to choose heaven because to choose heaven is to choose love. But if we've spent our life choosing our ego over love, we will be much less likely to choose heaven because at that point we'd rather choose hell, which is the ultimate denial of love to instead serve the ego.

Either way, though, it's always going to be our own choice. As C.S. Lewis said, "The gates of hell are locked from the inside."
Thanks for sharing. I did not know that about Catholicism. This is very similar to my Baha'i beliefs. We choose self or we choose God, and when we choose God we choose to love others more than ourselves. Baha'u'llah enjoined us to 'prefer' our brother to ourselves. He also taught that the greatest prison is the prison of self.

40: O MY SERVANT! Free thyself from the fetters of this world, and loose thy soul from the prison of self. Seize thy chance, for it will come to thee no more. The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 36

I am a firm believer in free will and that it is always our choice to choose self or God.
I believe that heaven is nearness to God and hell is distance from God, so we determine where we will end up by the choices we make.
 

LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
This question is for believers and nonbelievers.

If God exists/existed would God welcome everyone into heaven as soon as they died, regardless of the kind of life they had lived on earth? For example, would God welcome a mass murderer into heaven and treat him the same way as a person who had lived a noble life serving others and worshiping God?

If you think God would welcome everyone into heaven, why would God do that?

If you think God would not welcome everyone into heaven why wouldn’t God do that?

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it. " -Jesus
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

*banned*
This question is for believers and nonbelievers.

If God exists/existed would God welcome everyone into heaven as soon as they died, regardless of the kind of life they had lived on earth? For example, would God welcome a mass murderer into heaven and treat him the same way as a person who had lived a noble life serving others and worshiping God?

If you think God would welcome everyone into heaven, why would God do that?

If you think God would not welcome everyone into heaven why wouldn’t God do that?

As a Christian, my understanding of the Bible is this.

No, not everyone goes to Heaven. Only those who have been redeemed by the blood of Jesus Christ will enter.

Prior to Christ's sacrifice both believer and unbeliever when they died went to the underworld called, Hades, or Sheol, or Hell. In this place there was a division between the believers and non-believers. The believers were in Abraham's bosom, and paradise. The non-believers were in a place of torment. Between them was an impassable gulf.

Once Christ's blood had been shed, then Christ went to the paradise section and took all the believers to Heaven. Thus, in that place at this time there are only the unbelieving damned in the torment side. They await the final judgement where they will be judged and tossed into the Lake of Fire.

So, when an unbeliever dies today, he goes to the place of torment. When the believer dies he goes to be with the Lord, and is in Heaven, as anywhere Christ will be, will be Heaven. The believer has no part with the judgement of the unbelieving, because the believer has been judged already in accepting Christ's sacrifice for him.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 
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