Does It Disturb You That the US President Is a Compulsive, Blatant, Unrepentant Liar?

[Nous]

One cannot rationally deny that Trump is a compulsive, blatant and unrepentant liar. The overt lies he has trumpeted since being in office are well documented. By defining “lie” conservatively, as a demonstrably false statement, the authors of a New York Times article found that Trump told a public lie on at least 20 of his first 40 days in office. “But based on a broader standard -- one that includes his many misleading statements (like exaggerating military spending in the Middle East) -- Trump achieved something remarkable: He said something untrue, in public, every day for the first 40 days of his presidency." The article goes on to show that Trump's days without a lie are generally only those when he isn't Tweeting or is on vacation.

A Washington Post article shows that Trump made 29 false or misleading statements during a 26-hour period on July 24th and July 25th.

Timothy O'Brien notes that a decade ago, during Trump's deposition in his defamation suit stemming from O'Brien's biography TrumpNation, lawyers compelled Trump to admit to 30 lies he had told over the years relating to his businesses and wealth. Indeed, the suit focused largely on the 3 anonymous sources O'Brien used to estimate Trump's net worth, a figure that Trump was unwilling to pin down or be consistent about. According to O'Brien, these sources were “people with direct knowledge of Donald's finances, people who had worked closely with him for years.” O'Brien interviewed and re-interviewed them, and provided his notes to the court, which stated, “The notes are significant, in that they provide remarkably similar estimates of Trump's net worth, thereby suggesting the accuracy of the information conveyed.” At the time, while Trump was hinting to interviewers “that his wealth is somewhere between $2 billion and $6 billion,” O'Brien's sources calculated it be between $250-350 million. Trump lost the case. Trump v. O'Brien.

So, are you disturbed or pleased by, or indifferent to, the fact that the US President is an incessant, blatant and unrepentant liar?

Is it possible that such disregard for the truth will become a new normal?

What does one say to one's children or grandchildren about it? Would you express approval if your children or grandchildren had such diffident relationship with the truth as Trump demonstrates?

How do or should our allies deal withTrump's lying? Can or should they trust the US to do or not do what the President promises to do or not do?

 

[Sunstone]

Although all humans lie, and especially all politicians, Trump takes lying to an obscene level. Among other consequences, he's lost credibility with world leaders. At some point, he will need to ask them to trust him about some important or crucial matter -- and they won't. That could have far reaching consequences, not the least of which are wars.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's more disturbing that he was the best candidate that the 2 biggest political parties could present.
I just hope we can go 4 years with no new wars.

 

[Flame]

Disturb me? Greatly. At this point its just hoping to survive this 4 year long **** storm.

 

[Father Heathen]

What disturbs me the most is how everything is at the mercy of the lowest common denominator.

 

[bobhikes]

Nope, the fact that he's candid about it makes it easier to block him from accomplishing anything. Truth be told his incompetence is exposing a lot of the flaws of government and my actually bring the country together. It will make major changes to both parties. Keep lying, keep being a jerk, keep being Trump and in 4 years we may start on a new better path.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I am far more bothered by the sycophants who validate his ignorant base.

 

[Kemosloby]

Nope, it doesn't bother me a bit. I think he should lie more so that I couldn't care less more. I think he should chop down a cherry tree publicly, then lie about it, send the news stations in a tissy.

 

[DavidFirth]

I'd still rather have him than Hilary.

 

[dawny0826]

I am disgusted by the hypocrisy of his supporters who have so harshly held others accountable for the same unacceptable behavior, while refraining from acknowledging his wrong doing.

What convinced anyone that he's qualified to be President is beyond me.

 

[DavidFirth]

I am disgusted by the hypocrisy of his supporters who have so harshly held others accountable for the same unacceptable behavior, while refraining from acknowledging his wrong doing.

What convinced anyone that he's qualified to be President is beyond me.

One word: Hilary

 

[dawny0826]

One word: Hilary

She and Trump weren't the only two options. If Johnson hadn't been my genuine preference, I would have voted for him anyway because I resent the busted two-party/lesser of two evils system that I feel we're stuck with.

 

[sun rise]

One word: Hilary

So you choose someone who publicly proudly boasts about his sinning and eschews virtue. I don't understand those who are religious who put politics ahead of virtue. Hillary Clinton is no saint, she's a typical politician. But he rolls in the gutter and is proud of it. To me, the national Republican party with a very few exceptions is the captive of dark forces and the instantiation of Yeats' poem "The Second Coming"

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

 

[Twilight Hue]

One cannot rationally deny that Trump is a compulsive, blatant and unrepentant liar. The overt lies he has trumpeted since being in office are well documented. By defining “lie” conservatively, as a demonstrably false statement, the authors of a New York Times article found that Trump told a public lie on at least 20 of his first 40 days in office. “But based on a broader standard -- one that includes his many misleading statements (like exaggerating military spending in the Middle East) -- Trump achieved something remarkable: He said something untrue, in public, every day for the first 40 days of his presidency." The article goes on to show that Trump's days without a lie are generally only those when he isn't Tweeting or is on vacation.

A Washington Post article shows that Trump made 29 false or misleading statements during a 26-hour period on July 24th and July 25th.

Timothy O'Brien notes that a decade ago, during Trump's deposition in his defamation suit stemming from O'Brien's biography TrumpNation, lawyers compelled Trump to admit to 30 lies he had told over the years relating to his businesses and wealth. Indeed, the suit focused largely on the 3 anonymous sources O'Brien used to estimate Trump's net worth, a figure that Trump was unwilling to pin down or be consistent about. According to O'Brien, these sources were “people with direct knowledge of Donald's finances, people who had worked closely with him for years.” O'Brien interviewed and re-interviewed them, and provided his notes to the court, which stated, “The notes are significant, in that they provide remarkably similar estimates of Trump's net worth, thereby suggesting the accuracy of the information conveyed.” At the time, while Trump was hinting to interviewers “that his wealth is somewhere between $2 billion and $6 billion,” O'Brien's sources calculated it be between $250-350 million. Trump lost the case. Trump v. O'Brien.

So, are you disturbed or pleased by, or indifferent to, the fact that the US President is an incessant, blatant and unrepentant liar?

Is it possible that such disregard for the truth will become a new normal?

What does one say to one's children or grandchildren about it? Would you express approval if your children or grandchildren had such diffident relationship with the truth as Trump demonstrates?

How do or should our allies deal withTrump's lying? Can or should they trust the US to do or not do what the President promises to do or not do?

Lying is acceptable in society today all the way from advertising, news reporting, and politics. Theres no real recourse or penalty for lying, so pretty much nobody is even going to bat an eye over it. Might as well get used to how things run these days.

 

[DavidFirth]

She and Trump weren't the only two options. If Johnson hadn't been my genuine preference, I would have voted for him anyway because I resent the busted two-party/lesser of two evils system that I feel we're stuck with.

I liked Johnson, too. But no third party candidate has ever won even one state.

 

[DavidFirth]

So you choose someone who publicly proudly boasts about his sinning and eschews virtue. I don't understand those who are religious who put politics ahead of virtue. Hillary Clinton is no saint, she's a typical politician. But he rolls in the gutter and is proud of it. To me, the national Republican party with a very few exceptions is the captive of dark forces and the instantiation of Yeats' poem "The Second Coming"

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

No, I didn't choose him. The people did. I didn't vote for him.

 

[Father Heathen]

Lying is acceptable in society today all the way from advertising, news reporting, and politics. Theres no real recourse or penalty for lying, so pretty much nobody is even going to bat an eye over it. Might as well get used to how things run these days.

Unless they're liberal, of course. Then you wouldn't hesitate to denounce their dishonest, immoral ways. If you think lying is acceptable then you have no integrity, regardless of how widespread it is. This is just another sad example of someone placing blind partisan loyalty before principles. If Trump was discovered torturing kittens you would still bend over backwards trying to defend, excuse, or justify such behavior.

 

[Father Heathen]

Nope, it doesn't bother me a bit. I think he should lie more so that I couldn't care less more. I think he should chop down a cherry tree publicly, then lie about it, send the news stations in a tissy.

"The Lord detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy." - proverbs 12:22

 

[esmith]

Well to tell you the truth I would have preferred Ross Perot, but since my only real choices were Hillary and Trump there was no choice other than the present President. So, as long as he doesn't get us involved in a nation building conflict and improves the economy I could care less what he says.
Actions speak louder than words.

 

[Kemosloby]

"The Lord detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy." - proverbs 12:22

Right, so Trumps petty lies are nothing, It's those decievers the Lord despises. Those ones who say they ore on your side but are not trustworthy. I don't believe Trump has turned against us to serve only the rich like I do Hillary and Obama.