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Does It Matter If There Is No God?

Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Does it matter in this world if there is no God or Gods? Is there anything significant or essential about your daily life that would change for you depending on whether there existed deity or not? If so, what?
 
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Random

Well-Known Member
Sunstone said:
Does it matter in this world if there is no God or Gods? Is there anything significant or essential about your daily life that would change for you depending on whether there existed deity or not? If so, what?
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I don't believe in deity of the sort commonly assumed and described, but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. That said...

The concept of God is what is held dear: without it I would be missing the hope of transcendence, the satisfaction of the longing for something greater than this world and all its conflicts and miseries. If the World is all there is, life is worthless. You might as well just go and live fast and die young, preferably violently. It would be the only natural response. Without God I percieve no order or reformation in the universe, just more of the same crap taking different forms and shapes, ad infinatum. I do not wish to live an insane existence just becuase it is one way to exist. Existence is not enough.
 
krashlocke

krashlocke

Member
Godlike said:
I don't believe in deity of the sort commonly assumed and described, but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. That said...

The concept of God is what is held dear: without it I would be missing the hope of transcendence, the satisfaction of the longing for something greater than this world and all its conflicts and miseries. If the World is all there is, life is worthless. You might as well just go and live fast and die young, preferably violently. It would be the only natural response. Without God I percieve no order or reformation in the universe, just more of the same crap taking different forms and shapes, ad infinatum. I do not wish to live an insane existence just becuase it is one way to exist. Existence is not enough.
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Fascinating. I find comfort in precisely the opposite - knowing that there is an end to life makes every sensation sweeter because it may be the only moment for me to experience it. When I believed in transcendance I looked forward to death to put an end to existance's pain and didn't notice the good things in life. Putting the goal of transcendance behind me freed me from such shackles and allowed me to pursue living with fervent zeal. Death is still sweet, but for the reason that it gives every day lived meaning.
 
Feathers in Hair

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
Sunstone said:
Does it matter in this world if there is no God or Gods? Is there anything significant or essential about your daily life that would change for you depending on whether there existed deity or not? If so, what?
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To me, it doesn't. What's significant to me about the possibility of gods is what they represent- the traits that I greatly admire. If they did not exist, I would probably treat them as characters that I enjoy. Not sure how much that would change if it were proven they didn't exist.
 
Buttercup

Buttercup

Veteran Member
Sunstone said:
Does it matter in this world if there is no God or Gods? Is there anything significant or essential about your daily life that would change for you depending on whether there existed deity or not? If so, what?
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My daily life would change if this God or Gods manifested itself and asked for some sort of recognition. Until then, we only have the heresay words of others to go by and it seems meaningless or in vain to me now. How can we know the world view of God to be true?
 
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Random

Well-Known Member
krashlocke said:
Fascinating. I find comfort in precisely the opposite - knowing that there is an end to life makes every sensation sweeter because it may be the only moment for me to experience it. When I believed in transcendance I looked forward to death to put an end to existance's pain and didn't notice the good things in life. Putting the goal of transcendance behind me freed me from such shackles and allowed me to pursue living with fervent zeal. Death is still sweet, but for the reason that it gives every day lived meaning.
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Y'see, I don't know what this means in a rational-sane sense @ all. You're happy that a short life of suffering should find its fulfillment in nihilistic death? Like, that's IT?! Honestly then, truly, in all sincerity, tell me WHAT IS THE POINT???
 
cardero

cardero

Citizen Mod
Does It Matter If There Is No God?
All one has to do is ask themselves this:
Does it matter if there was no Religious Forums?
My answer is yes, it does matter.
 
krashlocke

krashlocke

Member
Godlike said:
Y'see, I don't know what this means in a rational-sane sense @ all. You're happy that a short life of suffering should find its fulfillment in nihilistic death? Like, that's IT?! Honestly then, truly, in all sincerity, tell me WHAT IS THE POINT???
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The journey isn't about the end. Does it need a point?

Throughout life one will experience polarizing emotions creating the concept of suffering as well as joy. Life is filled with both, but I once felt that I sold myself short on the joys I had experienced by comparing them with the joys of an afterlife that I had yet to experience. Certainly in that time, all life was suffering because I compared it to the incomparable rapture of heaven. I would in fact ask the exact same question: "if life is simply suffering, then why?"
 
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Random

Well-Known Member
cardero said:
Does It Matter If There Is No God?
All one has to do is ask themselves this:
Does it matter if there was no Religious Forums?
My answer is yes, it does matter.
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My answer is NO, it does not matter if there was no RF.
 
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Random

Well-Known Member
krashlocke said:
The journey isn't about the end. Does it need a point?

Throughout life one will experience polarizing emotions creating the concept of suffering as well as joy. Life is filled with both, but I once felt that I sold myself short on the joys I had experienced by comparing them with the joys of an afterlife that I had yet to experience. Certainly in that time, all life was suffering because I compared it to the incomparable rapture of heaven. I would in fact ask the exact same question: "if life is simply suffering, then why?"
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Well, I haven't had much "joy" and I still think life sucks.

You're right about the "rapture of heaven" bit, though: comparison of any kind is a curse on the soul, it truly is. You can never see things as they truly are I guess.
 
cardero

cardero

Citizen Mod
Godlike writes: My answer is NO, it does not matter if there was no RF.
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I have met a lot of great people on RF, believers and unbelievers, like minded individuals like yourself and people of many different viewpoints. I would not have searched or found or participated or continued in the RF community if it wasn’t for everyone's relationship with GOD. Now if everyone will excuse me, I have to visit Sunstone’s “What Do You Thank God (or the Gods) For?” thread.
 
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Random

Well-Known Member
cardero said:
I have met a lot of great people on RF, believers and unbelievers, like minded individuals like yourself and people of many different viewpoints. I would not have searched or found or participated or continued in the RF community if it wasn’t for everyone's relationship with GOD. Now if everyone will excuse me, I have to visit Sunstone’s “What Do You Thank God (or the Gods) For?” thread.
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We are likeminded, Cardero, and I appreciate RF too. I just meant that it is not necessary for all. ;)
 
Ozzie

Ozzie

Well-Known Member
Personally it does not matter to me if there are or are not God or Gods. But there are God or Gods all around me in this life anyway, or a least people whose belief in them affects their behaviour towards me and others. So it is important to try to understand these perspectives. I enjoy it and there seems to be no shortage of material.
 
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