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Does it matter what we believe?

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
It matters because some beliefs cause stress,
which leads to poorer health, & other maladies.
Just ask @Shadow Wolf about how religious
beliefs affected her life as a young'n.
That is so very true. Certain beliefs also caused a lot of stress for my friend @Sgt. Pepper as a child and as an adult.

My religious beliefs sometimes cause stress for me because of the very high standards that I cannot live up to. These standards not only apply to my behavior, they also apply to how I should think and feel. Where I draw the line is when a religion tells me how to think or feel. I cannot help how I think and feel, I can only try to align my behavior with what I believe.
My beliefs are stress free.
Atheism is sure a lot easier than theism, I will give you that.
I have never been much for religion and I don't enjoy being a believer who is expected to walk on water.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
In my book belief isn't knowledge. It's only reasonable that a just God wouldn't hold one accountable to beliefs; only knowledge.

So, No!

But to believe in what you know to be true and factual would still fall short of a God imperative I would say. Belief is weaker than having faith in what you know to be true.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Does it matter what you believe religiously/about God?
Yes AND no. (As with many things, the truth is paradoxical).

It matters to us. And then through us, it effects others. So yes, it matters. While at the same time, it doesn't matter at all to God, to the world, or even to anyone else. really. Why would it? All that matters is how it effects us and how it effects others through us. Otherwise ... not at all.
 
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Trailblazer

Veteran Member

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
My belief matters a great deal to me.
My belief makes me appreciative.
My beliefs must make sense to me, even in the mythological context that I use to grasp the unknowable truth. It must help me live with peace, calm, hope, integrity, honor, and forgiveness, with love and acceptance of all of creation.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
My belief matters a great deal to me.
My belief makes me appreciative.
My beliefs must make sense to me, even in the mythological context that I use to grasp the unknowable truth. It must help me live with peace, calm, hope, integrity, honor, and forgiveness, with love and acceptance of all of creation.
So your beliefs matter to you and these are the reasons why your beliefs matter to you.
Thanks, I like it when people give direct answers to what I ask in my OP. :)
 

I Am Hugh

Researcher
Yes and no. What you believe doesn't change anything regarding what is accurate, factual, truth. Your beliefs may be in line with that or they may not be in line with it. I know that I believe wrongly often, and it makes me so mad! But on the other hand, once I get it through my stubborn head, I accept it and it makes me so glad. Then it happens again. Learning (ideally, the process of believing) is a tricky business. Fortunately, God sees the heart, which means that he knows if you are believing in him or believing your own ideas, traditions or ideology. So, if you believe wrong, like the disciples often did, then it becomes a question of where your heart is.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I'm going to ignore the God part of believe, and simply say that what we believe informs our actions. What makes that an interesting viewpoint is that our actions can thus let others know whether we actually believe what we claim to -- or not.

So, for example, the Christian who enjoys telling people that "God is Love!" and who then goes one to say that "God hates gay people!" cannot be being honest. Each statement of belief totally contradicts the other. There's no way around that.

What about the person who thinks that "freedom" (as the Yangs in a Star Trek episode) is a "holy word?" If he then denies a gay man the right to marry the man he loves -- does he truly believe that freedom is a holy word? No, I don't think so.

This is the problem -- all humans believe some things so deeply that they couldn't possibly act in a way that defies their belief. I believe so strongly that a red, glowing burner on my stove will burn my hand horribly if I were to touch that nothing short of violence could get me to put my hand on it.

People who claim they truly believe in what Christ taught could not condemn others for being who they are. Those who zealously claim to love the Bible, and Matthew 25, who then deny help help to another person in distress -- I say that they do not actually believe what they think they believe.

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’​
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’​
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’​
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’​
In other words, they do not actually believe what they suppose themselves to believe. And when you don't believe what you think you believe -- then no, it doesn't matter at all what you believe. You'll be just as good or bad as you want to be, for your own reasons.
 

Tomef

Well-Known Member
This thought just came into my mind today.
I already have my own answer to this question but I want to see what others think before I present my answer. ;)

Does it matter what you believe religiously/about God?

If so, why does it matter?
If not, why doesn't it matter?

This has to be the shortest OP that @Trailblazer has ever posted. :D
No, it doesn’t matter.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
This thought just came into my mind today.
I already have my own answer to this question but I want to see what others think before I present my answer. ;)

Does it matter what you believe religiously/about God?

If so, why does it matter?
If not, why doesn't it matter?

This has to be the shortest OP that @Trailblazer has ever posted. :D
In my opinion, it does matter TB. Because I believe like many others that there is a thing called epistemic responsibility.

It's not truly about salvation as a whole.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
This thought just came into my mind today.
I already have my own answer to this question but I want to see what others think before I present my answer. ;)

Does it matter what you believe religiously/about God?

If so, why does it matter?
If not, why doesn't it matter?

This has to be the shortest OP that @Trailblazer has ever posted. :D

No, as in effect both good and bad beliefs can believed as per God.

Now for the psychology of how beliefs effect you, there is something where beliefs can have an effect, but that is not just religion as such. It also effect non-religious humans.
 

PearlSeeker

Well-Known Member
Does it matter what you believe religiously/about God?

If so, why does it matter?
If not, why doesn't it matter?

Yes, it matters to me.

When I believed in God (of the Bible) it gave my life meaning, comfort, hope, moral education... I'm still grateful for this. Now I it's important to me not to believe in such God because I'm interested in truth.
 

Madsaac

Active Member
This thought just came into my mind today.
I already have my own answer to this question but I want to see what others think before I present my answer. ;)

Does it matter what you believe religiously/about God?

If so, why does it matter?
If not, why doesn't it matter?

This has to be the shortest OP that @Trailblazer has ever posted. :D
Yes it matters what we believe because it may shape our laws and social behaviours.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Yes, it matters to me.

When I believed in God (of the Bible) it gave my life meaning, comfort, hope, moral education... I'm still grateful for this. Now I it's important to me not to believe in such God because I'm interested in truth.
So you don't believe in the Bible God anymore? What happened that caused you to lose your belief?

I never believed in the Bible God. Although some Baha'is think that is the same as the Baha'i God, I am not buying that.
I believe it is the same God in the sense that there is only one God, but that is where the sameness ends.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
This thought just came into my mind today.
I already have my own answer to this question but I want to see what others think before I present my answer. ;)

Does it matter what you believe religiously/about God?

If so, why does it matter?
If not, why doesn't it matter?
I said I had my own answer to this question and now that I have heard some other answers I am going to present my answer.
It matters to me what I believe religiously/about God because my beliefs inform me about the purpose of this life, and if there is a purpose for this life I want to fulfill that purpose.

According to my Baha'i beliefs we were created to know God and get close to God.

“The purpose of God in creating man hath been, and will ever be, to enable him to know his Creator and to attain His Presence. To this most excellent aim, this supreme objective, all the heavenly Books and the divinely-revealed and weighty Scriptures unequivocally bear witness.”

I think I know what I can know about God through God's messengers but I do not 'feel' very close to God, so I have lot of work to do towards that end.

But there is more to our purpose besides knowing and worshiping God, according to my beliefs.
We are also supposed to be acquiring spiritual attributes which are beneficial to have in this life but which will be vital to have in the next life which will be conducted in the spiritual world. It is the teachings of the messengers that guide us towards the Truth regarding what we are supposed to be doing in this life in order to be prepared for the next life.

“The Prophets and Messengers of God have been sent down for the sole purpose of guiding mankind to the straight Path of Truth. The purpose underlying Their revelation hath been to educate all men, that they may, at the hour of death, ascend, in the utmost purity and sanctity and with absolute detachment, to the throne of the Most High.”
 

christos

Some sort of scholar dude who likes learning
Yea belief is important as it shapes everything we do

BUT, if you think believing in x over y, because x says y goes to hell is completely false

Christian’s push the narrative that if you don’t know God (which is impossible) or worship Christ (which you’re not supposed to) you’ll go to hell

Whilst all the while ignoring that athiests have encountered what they call heaven or encountered God during NDEs

So those with non belief also seem to have mystical heavenly experience in death (which occurs in around 12-20% of people)
 
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