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Does male and female truly exist?

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Well do they? Does god see gender? Should we see gender when we associate with people? I because of my Gnostic and dharmic thought tend to see male and female as illusionary. They are real in the flesh, but not the spirit. I mean the pure spirit, like the cosmic force, which is within everything. My being gay reminds me all too well that male and female are real to the fleshly carnal mind. I never talk down to women though, I always speak like I'm speaking to a fellow spirit.
The concept of gender has intrigued me for a while because it's something that:
-I observe to exist.
-Cannot define, nor have I seen a sufficient definition.

I think that gender is a meaningful concept because statistically speaking, males and females have some different behavior. In addition, there exist people that feel that they should be the other gender, which doesn't seem to make sense if gender was a non-issue. I can relate to that to a certain extent because I am female and would not want to be male despite the fact that I don't look down on males. It's a matter of preference and self-identity, even though I can't quite define what a female is other than the biologically obvious.

Yes they do. If they did not you would not be gay. I do not mean you would not have your sexual preference as you do now I mean the word would not exist.

In almost every pair there will be a dominate member and many times this is the male and if you are in a relationship be it homo or hetero someone will generally be dominant and this can be seen as the traditional male gender roll.

As far as biological yes there is a difference and we all know that and because I am not homo I see it as a choice no matter what anyone says. If I were the other way I would say this is how I was made. Perhaps we are all born without gender and we choose what we will be unless something comes along that interferes with it.

There again what about guys who are on the "Down Low"? Are they the freaks and giving gays a bad rap because they only want sex?
There is no dominance in my relationship. There seems to be dominance in certain areas (I am more dominant when it comes to finances, cooking, and pushing him to get stuff done, and he is more dominant in matters of sexuality.), but there is no dominance in any overarching way.
 

Archer

Well-Known Member
The concept of gender has intrigued me for a while because it's something that:
-I observe to exist.
-Cannot define, nor have I seen a sufficient definition.

I think that gender is a meaningful concept because statistically speaking, males and females have some different behavior. In addition, there exist people that feel that they should be the other gender, which doesn't seem to make sense if gender was a non-issue. I can relate to that to a certain extent because I am female and would not want to be male despite the fact that I don't look down on males. It's a matter of preference and self-identity, even though I can't quite define what a female is other than the biologically obvious.


There is no dominance in my relationship. There seems to be dominance in certain areas (I am more dominant when it comes to finances, cooking, and pushing him to get stuff done, and he is more dominant in matters of sexuality.), but there is no dominance in any overarching way.

But there is almost always an Alpha. Even if it is decided it is still the case. Sure on an issue by issue thing the Alpha changes but there is always a final decision maker and many times it is by default. It is not always the male and honestly the roles are changing.
 
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