Does our Democratic Republic really work? (USA)

[Father]

Does the Government of the United States actually work? how would you improve it or fix it?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Give it back to the UK, or Canada.

 

[Father]

Give it back to the UK, or Canada.

Canada is ruled by Feminazi's and. England... they ain't doing to good currently either.
but if you mean try a Monarchy again that could work,

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Canada is ruled by Feminazi's and. England... they ain't doing to good currently either.
but if you mean try a Monarchy again that could work,

No I mean I think there's nothing less 'free' or appealing about the UK and Canada other than the weather to me. People live longer, are better educated, and are happier.

 

[Father]

No I mean I think there's nothing less 'free' or appealing about the UK and Canada other than the weather to me. People live longer, are better educated, and are happier.

actually, I would have to disagree. many in the Commonwealth whom I have spoken to are envious of our constitution. specifically the solid outlining of the first amendment. speach is far stricter in UK and Canada its why the leftists have taken such a foothold.
while truthfully it would simply be trading master's we still have better privileges here even if we have more problems to deal with.

 

[Father]

No I mean I think there's nothing less 'free' or appealing about the UK and Canada other than the weather to me. People live longer, are better educated, and are happier.

Also, I would more prefer things within the realm of possibility, we are more likely to conquer Canada and UK than ever hand the keys over

 

[ADigitalArtist]

actually, I would have to disagree. many in the Commonwealth whom I have spoken to are envious of our constitution. specifically the solid outlining of the first amendment. speach is far stricter in UK and Canada its why the leftists have taken such a foothold.
while truthfully it would simply be trading master's we still have better privileges here even if we have more problems to deal with.

I'm rather left so I don't really much mind 'leftist takeover.' Statistically they are, on average, more happy, more educated, with longer life spans, better quality of living, with less crime. We're so far behind in so many respects even with our lauded constitution. In fact I think our constitution in some ways shoots itself in the foot. It was so difficult to ammend that some things which really needed changes didn't for way longer than it needed to be (re: civil rights battles across the ages.) Plus I actually think separation of church and state created a divisive culture that made it EASIER for entrenched communities with religious legislature. Which is why you don't see a bible literalist population of comparable ratio in places like the UK or Canada.
But that's a big topic for another time.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Also, I would more prefer things within the realm of possibility, we are more likely to conquer Canada and UK than ever hand the keys over

That part is true. But I think that's because right now it's unrealistic to expect the US to get away from its self-defeating '#1' mentality. Including it's ridiculous military spending to the detriment of its own budget. Schools, healthcare, et al.

 

[Father]

That part is true. But I think that's because right now it's unrealistic to expect the US to get away from its self-defeating '#1' mentality. Including it's ridiculous military spending to the detriment of its own budget. Schools, healthcare, et al.

I agree. I dislike our current militaristic campaigns. I am one would be totally fine if we just Imperialized and conquered countries if it benefited us and the people. but us lying shifting around the shadows and fighting wars we have no business in all for the small mineral benefits of our elite is despicable

 

[Father]

What have the liberals done to be dubbed feminazi's in your eyes?
Lmao.

. promoting feminism which is not egalitarian no matter what they state their actions speak otherwise. the promotion of many Social Justice ideals. they had a BLM parade even though their cops shoot no one and blacks barely a fraction of their population compared to here. even less than here. along with other things/

 

[Altfish]

actually, I would have to disagree. many in the Commonwealth whom I have spoken to are envious of our constitution. specifically the solid outlining of the first amendment. speach is far stricter in UK and Canada its why the leftists have taken such a foothold.
while truthfully it would simply be trading master's we still have better privileges here even if we have more problems to deal with.

I think you will find that most Brits are envious that you have a constitution but we don't want one like yours.
Our democratic system is a best broke, but I still prefer it to your system.
What do you mean when you say you "have better privileges here"?

 

[Father]

I think you will find that most Brits are envious that you have a constitution but we don't want one like yours.
Our democratic system is a best broke, but I still prefer it to your system.
What do you mean when you say you "have better privileges here"?

our freedom of speech is solid and outlined and we have far freer speech than anywhere else.
also, you can own an armory if you wish. and a tank. and a flamethrower.
actually, that's about it. we only really got the free speech thing going for us

 

[Tiapan]

Make voting compulsory. If the last US Election had compulsory voting, I don't think Trump would be in the white house now.

Cheers

 

[Father]

Make voting compulsory. If the last US Election had compulsory voting, I don't think Trump would be in the white house now.

Cheers

hardly. the American voting system works like a chess game. even if everyone everywhere else voted trump still got the game-winning locations. also, mandatory voting sounds extremely authoritarian. north Korea has mandatory voting. does no good as to fix the system if you are simply swapping this snake for that snake.

 

[Altfish]

our freedom of speech is solid and outlined and we have far freer speech than anywhere else.
also, you can own an armory if you wish. and a tank. and a flamethrower.
actually, that's about it. we only really got the free speech thing going for us

And what can you say in the US that I couldn't say in the UK? or Canada, Norway, Sweden, etc.

 

[Father]

And what can you say in the US that I couldn't say in the UK? or Canada, Norway, Sweden, etc.

hate crime my friend. a bunch of people in those European countries can be arrested for "hate crime" for speaking their opinion
Hate speech laws in Canada include provisions in the Criminal Code of Canada, provisions in the Human Rights Act and in other federal legislation, and statutory provisions in each of Canada's ten provinces and three territories. The Criminal Code prohibits "hate propaganda." what exactly that is, is open to interpretation

but since a man in England got arrested for teaching his dog to Sieg Heil I would say they can be pretty strict, there has even been push especially in Canada to make it a crime to misgender someone. especially since your governments can restrict speech without much issue when ours are legally unable to by any means

there is a lot I could list but you could compare and contrast more on your own

 

[Altfish]

hate crime my friend. a bunch of people in those European countries can be arrested for "hate crime" for speaking their opinion
Hate speech laws in Canada include provisions in the Criminal Code of Canada, provisions in the Human Rights Act and in other federal legislation, and statutory provisions in each of Canada's ten provinces and three territories. The Criminal Code prohibits "hate propaganda." what exactly that is, is open to interpretation

but since a man in England got arrested for teaching his dog to Sieg Heil I would say they can be pretty strict, there has even been push especially in Canada to make it a crime to misgender someone. especially since your governments can restrict speech without much issue when ours are legally unable to by any means

there is a lot I could list but you could compare and contrast more on your own

I don't know about Canada but in the UK...
The only way you can be arrested for 'Hate Crime' as you call it, is if you incite violence in/from others. So you can say, "I hate Islam" but you can't say, "I hate Muslim and you should all march down to the mosque and burn it down"
The story about the man teaching his dog the Nazi salute is true but he was doing it to provoke hatred of the Jews.

To be honest, I think we've got it about right, not saying occasionally it errs on the wrong side. BUT it is usually the police over reacting. We hear a lot of "Man arrested for teaching dog..." but less about "Man convicted for teaching dog..." in other words they are good right wing talking points that fizzle out and are not followed up on.

 

[Father]

I don't know about Canada but in the UK...
The only way you can be arrested for 'Hate Crime' as you call it, is if you incite violence in/from others. So you can say, "I hate Islam" but you can't say, "I hate Muslim and you should all march down to the mosque and burn it down"
The story about the man teaching his dog the Nazi salute is true but he was doing it to provoke hatred of the Jews.

To be honest, I think we've got it about right, not saying occasionally it errs on the wrong side. BUT it is usually the police over reacting. We hear a lot of "Man arrested for teaching dog..." but less about "Man convicted for teaching dog..." in other words they are good right wing talking points that fizzle out and are not followed up on.

yet even being arrested for Sieg heiling let alone a dog is wrong.

 

[Altfish]

yet even being arrested for Sieg heiling let alone a dog is wrong.

I don't agree, ask your Jewish friends what they would think of you if you went up to them and did the Nazi salute.
It is basically hate speech.

 

[Father]

I don't agree, ask your Jewish friends what they would think of you if you went up to them and did the Nazi salute.
It basically hates speech.

My father works for a Jewish hospital. they nicknamed one of the buildings which is called heightler tower, they *some of the workers* nicked named Hitler tower. news flash the jews don't care. most of them. dont care. there are a handful of snowflakes who do but who cares?

my ancestors were slaughtered and forcibly converted by the Christians. you don't see me crying every time I see a cross. I had family who fought and died in the world war. and yet does the sight of a Nazi flag bug me? not one bit. this offense some draw is unfounded and a sign of the weak. and a problem with our country. the past is the past and the past is dead. the Nazi party. dead. the holy roman empire. dead. the ancient Romans. The Japanese empire who had far more ruthless and worse camps than even the Nazi's dead. there are still north Korean camps don't see those jews fighting to get that ended. hypocrites. but seeming take issue with some edgy teenagers doing a salute because they think its cool, or wearing their flag.
but all of those horrible groups that have done things. they are all dead. get over it.

I can safely say I may not agree with the Neo-Nazi's or KKK but I will bloody well fight for their right to say whatever they want so long as they make no physical advances to silence anyone else. which most don't. most of those hate groups are quite peaceful. it's the antifascists who have been causing violence and starting it. I have yet to see one alt right protest where they start the violence or forcibly shut down opposing speakers.