Does perfection exist?

[ChristineM]

I am confident that in their mind, they are being specific. Because 'fill in the blank' believes his or her god is the only god and everyone should know that.

But everyone doesn't know it. Its kind of self centred to make the implication that everyone knows what im talking about because i believe in _________. Sure the majority of peeps are abrahamic god believers, but not all

 

[viole]

I disagree about the value of the discussion, but the very fact that it is ill-defined could be seen to support the idea that we do not have the capacity to observe a state of perfect perfection or even determine that it can exist.

And why do you disagree about the value of the discussion?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Dan From Smithville]

And why do you disagree about the value of the discussion?

Ciao

- viole

Perhaps that too is relative, but it has been valuable to me. I do not think my ability to imagine all the perspectives or points exist and it is enlightening to hear what others have to say. I do not know. So I seek.

In my prior thinking about perfection, I have entertained arguments for the existence of God and how they could be applied to perfection. Even though we can have a concept of something, does that entail that something exists? What if our conception is flawed and we do not have the ability to actually conceive?

Maybe it is not circular, but the ontological argument always gives me a feeling of a circle.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

But everyone doesn't know it. Its kind of self centred to make the implication that everyone knows what im talking about because i believe in _________. Sure the majority of peeps are abrahamic god believers, but not all

I agree. It is a sort of ignorant and naive arrogance on display. Perhaps it is not always ignorant or naive too.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

And why do you disagree about the value of the discussion?

Ciao

- viole

Sure. A logical syllogism is a sort of circle with the premises circling around to the conclusion, but there is something else that makes me resistant to the argument as an argument that we can conceive of God or the essence of God and therefore God. Does conceptualizing the highest form of perfection or some essence of perfection mean we achieved that? Does conceptualizing reveal that the highest form of perfection must exist?

Is it more practically useful just to focus on our own ideal of perfection, while recognizing its subjectivity and run with that?