I'm Irish and British. Do I apologize to myself? I'm also part Nordic. I think I'll just go to therapy, now.
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Does somebody owe the world an apology for the Spanish Flu?
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dfnj
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Sorry, I tried to watch it. But as soon as his pus came on I started to feel my dinner come up.
gnomon
Well-Known Member
What is your point?
edit: Seriously, there is some blame going around right now and maybe you are trying to make a point but make it clear.
I smell a hidden agenda.
There's some point to be made.
whirlingmerc
Well-Known Member
There also should not be an apology for everyone dying.
Sin entered the world. All sinned. The wages of sin is death and we live in a previously good, but now sin cursed broken world
And there should not be an apology for the flood where the ancient world perished except for 8 people
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
Since Spain didn't keep their medical experts from promptly reporting their discovery of Spanish flu to the World Health Organization, unlike China who silenced their medical experts from promptly reporting their Kung Flu to the World Health Organization, Spain should not be held accountable for the Spanish Flu.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Oh Yeah?
My Maternal Grandfather's name was Mayo.
You need to get in the queue.
But them Vikings was bad over in Ireland as well, so I still want an apology from them.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Yeah....... but your Great great x10 Grandaddy...... he was a right beserker.
Yeah....... like... 'Lock up your cows 'n' sheep. Them Vikings is coming.'
Yeah....... but your Great great x10 Grandaddy...... he was a right beserker.
Yeah....... like... 'Lock up your cows 'n' sheep. Them Vikings is coming.'
Most of the Viking horror stories are greatly exaggerated
Settlers just like settlers everywhere, get rid of the weeds and settle
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Tell that to Alfred!
Or the monks of Lindisfarne.
Those massive migrations have always interested me. A whole race just rises up and stampedes across a continent, then settles and quietens.
Mixing blood lines ....?
Nature sure is powerful.
Getting rid of the weeds, it happens all the time.
Most certainly not a whole race but a goodly number.
And once the weeds are gone, yes, mixing bloodlines as has happened since the end of the ice age in Europe.
No, but the U.S. did. They deliberately censored reporting of the virus. If they didn’t the Spanish Flu might have ended up being called the Kansas Flu.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
If a virus were found to have formed in Kansas, would you then think it were racist against Kansans who are predominately white to call this hypothetical virus the Kansas flu?
It would be better to just give it a name that doesn't reflect where it first arose.
Cooky
Veteran Member
This is the point of the thread..? Yes?
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
'Genetic sequencing shows that from 2000 to 2010, 87 percent of the most successful, globally-spreading strains of H3N2 originated in east, south and southeast Asia. Cobey and her colleagues, lead author Frank Wen from the University of Chicago and Trevor Bedford of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, developed a computer model to simulate conditions in these areas.'
Where does the flu come from every year? - UChicago Medicine
In 2004, NBC said that most flus start in China. Bigots!
'Most flu strains start in China
The population of China alone is bigger than that of the whole of Africa, and 80 percent of the new human flu strains the last few decades appeared in China first. With health officers already leery about a return of SARS, experts are keeping watch on the bird flu in Asia, where the virus has killed millions of chickens, and millions more have been slaughtered in an effort to prevent its spread. Eight people have died in Vietnam and two in Thailand.
Asia’s traditional situation of peasant farmers keeping ducks, chickens and pigs together with the family has long created opportunities for influenza to jump the species barrier.'
Asia is traditional cradle of influenza
Where does the flu come from every year? - UChicago Medicine
In 2004, NBC said that most flus start in China. Bigots!
'Most flu strains start in China
The population of China alone is bigger than that of the whole of Africa, and 80 percent of the new human flu strains the last few decades appeared in China first. With health officers already leery about a return of SARS, experts are keeping watch on the bird flu in Asia, where the virus has killed millions of chickens, and millions more have been slaughtered in an effort to prevent its spread. Eight people have died in Vietnam and two in Thailand.
Asia’s traditional situation of peasant farmers keeping ducks, chickens and pigs together with the family has long created opportunities for influenza to jump the species barrier.'
Asia is traditional cradle of influenza
I think it would be a disgusting despicable example of blaming the victims and kicking someone when they are down. If someone used a racial slur at the same time (“Kung flu”), then yes. Someone who would do that would be the worst kind of racist.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Highlighting the origin of a flu should cause international pressure on China to implement better measures against them, rather than trying to cover up. Perhaps begin by creating more 'social distance' between people and their livestock, or shutting down markets that sell wild animals and also traditional medicine shops that sell wild animal products (which require people to acquire those animals for them.)
'In the likely epicenter of the virus -- the so-called wet-markets of Wuhan, China -- where wild animals are held captive together and sold as delicacies or pets, a terrifying mix of viruses and species can occur.
"If they are being shipped or held in markets, in close proximity to other animals or humans," said Cunningham, "then there is a chance those viruses are being shed in large numbers." He said the other animals in a market like that are also more vulnerable to infection as they too are stressed.
"We are increasing transport of animals -- for medicine, for pets, for food -- at a scale that we have never done before," said Kate Jones, Chair of Ecology and Biodiversity at University College London.'
Bats are not to blame for coronavirus. Humans are - CNN
"If they are being shipped or held in markets, in close proximity to other animals or humans," said Cunningham, "then there is a chance those viruses are being shed in large numbers." He said the other animals in a market like that are also more vulnerable to infection as they too are stressed.
"We are increasing transport of animals -- for medicine, for pets, for food -- at a scale that we have never done before," said Kate Jones, Chair of Ecology and Biodiversity at University College London.'
Bats are not to blame for coronavirus. Humans are - CNN
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