101G
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is not TEMPTATION a test, dose not the exam "PROVES" if the child understand the curriculum?So you are saying that when, say, a child is TESTED in an exam, they are being TEMPTED?
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is not TEMPTATION a test, dose not the exam "PROVES" if the child understand the curriculum?So you are saying that when, say, a child is TESTED in an exam, they are being TEMPTED?
I think you are stressing the meaning.is not TEMPTATION a test, dose not the exam "PROVES" if the child understand the curriculum?
101G.
Look, let's make this as simpler as possible, one can be TESTED/TEMPTED of Righteousness, for "Good". or one can be TESTED/TEMPTED of Evil for "WRONG".I think you are stressing the meaning.
A person is not TEMPTED in a driving examination.
A Child is not TEMPTED in a school examination.
They are being TESTED for their ability to do correct procedure and for correct performance.
Tempted would mean they are given opportunities to do the wrong thing - the objective of which is that they should refuse.
Adam was TESTED by having to keep the commandment not to eat the fruit from the two trees… SATAN TEMPTED him (well, Eve, really!) by telling a lie that God only told them not to eat from the two trees because if you did then your eyes would be opened to knowing good from evil but they won’t die. That deception TEMPTED Eve to eat the fruit. And hers is the clincher - Temptation is hard linked with GAINING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT RIGHTEOUSLY EARNED:
“When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it.” (Gen 3:6)
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“But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your [mind] may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to [truth].”
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Please stop and resist the TEMPTATION to try to be seen as right when you are wrong!
Just stop!Look, let's make this as simpler as possible, one can be TESTED/TEMPTED of Righteousness, for "Good". or one can be TESTED/TEMPTED of Evil for "WRONG".
NOW IF U CANNOT UNDERSTAND THAT, THEN GO TO GOD.
101G
I believe that would be one God. It can't be one body since The Father does not have one. Some people say one purpose but that would mean the same mind which is the same as saying one God.One what?
i believe it can't mean anything else.Yes, but that does not mean that Jesus is God.
Jesus and the Father are One does not mean that Jesus is God.i believe it can't mean anything else.
The verse does not say ‘GOD’ came in the flesh. Check the Greek it was translated from.Jesus and the Father are One does not mean that Jesus is God.
“I and my Father are one” (John 10:30) means that whatever pertains to Jesus, all His acts and doings, are identical with the Will of the Father. Jesus and God also share the same Holy Spirit, so in that sense they are one. Jesus also shares some (but not all) the Attributes of God so in that sense they are one.
The verse below says that God was manifest in the flesh; it does not say that God became flesh. God cannot become flesh because God is everlastingly hidden from the eyes of men. No one has ever seen God (John 1:18, 1 John 4:12). Many people saw Jesus so that means that Jesus was not God.
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Thanks for pointing that out, I never noticed that. I believe that God was manifest in the flesh as Jesus, so it was Jesus who came in the flesh, not God.The verse does not say ‘GOD’ came in the flesh. Check the Greek it was translated from.
The verse says ‘He came in the flesh’, which means Jesus. There is no ‘God was manifested in the flesh’.
God was manifest in the flesh does not mean that God became flesh. It means that God manifested His qualities in Jesus, who came in the flesh.Mankind is ALREADY made in the image of God, albeit that we tarnish that image with sin in us. Jesus is a perfect man and thus perfect image. The point of the deliberately changed verse is that trinitarians CHANGED the focus of the verse to try to make it seem that it was God. Please, you need to be mindful of such underhanded changes to the scriptures.
It is easy to see that the verse is in error - check the other verses: What does it mean then that ‘GOD was seen by angels’, and that ‘God was justified in the flesh’, and that ‘GOD was Taken up in glory’???
Who took him up... who received God into Heaven?
I don’t understand - one line you say Jesus isn’t God, which is true. And the next line you say ‘God came in the flesh’ - which is ‘Jesus is God’ seeing that if was Jesus who came in the flesh.
It’s great that you have gained a better (or correct) understanding of that verse. I hope it will alert you to the very many other purposely mistranslated verses that Trinitarians have made to the scriptures in they’d attempt to claim that Jesus is God.Thanks for pointing that out, I never noticed that. I believe that God was manifest in the flesh as Jesus, so it was Jesus who came in the flesh, not God.
In other words, God manifested Himself as Jesus, but that does not mean that Jesus was God or that God became flesh, as Trinitarians believe.
God was manifest in the flesh does not mean that God became flesh. It means that God manifested His qualities in Jesus, who came in the flesh.
So the qualities of God became visible and obvious by looking at Jesus.
If you manifest a particular quality, feeling, or illness, or if it manifests itself, it becomes visible or obvious.
Manifest definition in American English | Collins English Dictionary
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Yes, that is what I mean when I say that Jesus was SENT BY GOD, I mean the time when Jesus was called to service to God at the river Jordan.So when you read about Jesus being ‘SENT BY GOD’, this is to be taken as the time when Jesus was called to service to God: The anointment at the river Jordan.
You (should) know this as it was after this that Jesus read the passage in the synagogue, saying, ‘This day the prophesy has been fulfilled in me’ (in effect:… ‘I am the awaited messiah you have been reading about for so long’).
Jesus and the Father are One does not mean that Jesus is God.
1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."The verse does not say ‘GOD’ came in the flesh. Check the Greek it was translated from.
The verse says ‘He came in the flesh’, which means Jesus. There is no ‘God was manifested in the flesh’.
No, 101G, Jesus is man - spirit encased in flesh and bone. After being raised from the dead he was made IMMORTAL by God and BECAME a LIVING SPIRIT in Heaven, which means that he can live OUTSIDE of a flesh and bone body in Heaven and indwell a body when in the physical world.1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
Hebrews 2:9 "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."
and there are only three entities. 1-God, 2 angels, and 3 man. so if he was made lower that the angels then that means before he is God. conclusion God in Flesh as a man
what did the apostle Peter by the Holy Ghost on the day of Pentecost? Acts 2:22 "Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:"
what did the Scripture say? "Jesus of Nazareth, a man", but was he not made lower than the angels? which as said, he is above the angels before taking on flesh bone and blood.
101 G.
yes, Jesus is God equally shared, being encased in flesh and bone. supportive scripture, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"No, 101G, Jesus is man - spirit encased in flesh and bone.
ERROR, he is IMMORTAL before he took on flesh and blood. understand, the Spirit is IMMORTAL not the flesh he came in. he was not made IMMORTAL, but was GLORIFIED in his OWN Spirit, fro where as he MADE "HIMSELF" of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men, see Phil 2:7)After being raised from the dead he was made IMMORTAL by God and BECAME a LIVING SPIRIT in Heaven, which means that he can live OUTSIDE of a flesh and bone body in Heaven and indwell a body when in the physical world.
All humans are immortal, not only Jesus, because we all have an immortal soul.now speaking of IMMORTALITY, he's the "ONLY" one who have it, so who made him IMMORTAL? ..... GOD? ..... that's him "JESUS". Oh U still a lot to Learn.
Aaah true, but what makes Jesus special? That’s what’s cool. If u can figure it outAll humans are immortal, not only Jesus, because we all have an immortal soul.
God made us all that way, Jesus didn't do anything to make us immortal.
Jesus is NOT God.
What makes Jesus special is that He is a Manifestation of God.Aaah true, but what makes Jesus special? That’s what’s cool. If u can figure it out
Yeah but what does that mean? What can Jesus do?What makes Jesus special is that He is a Manifestation of God.
What can Jesus do? I am not sure what you are asking. Do you mean what can Jesus do that ordinary humans cannot do?Yeah but what does that mean? What can Jesus do?