Does the bible REALLY apply to us today?

[savethedreams]

ACCORDING to matthew

TO THE ROMANS,

TO THE CORITHNS

I Don't see my name anywhere?

and I don't know a matthew, can't do anything without a last name.

Is their even a scripture that says that the bible applies to all mankind today. For example, the scripture on fornication, when writing to the romans does that apply to us today?

 

[9Westy9]

ACCORDING to matthew

TO THE ROMANS,

TO THE CORITHNS

I Don't see my name anywhere?

and I don't know a matthew, can't do anything without a last name.

Is their even a scripture that says that the bible applies to all mankind today. For example, the scripture on fornication, when writing to the romans does that apply to us today?

The gospels apply. As for the rest I'm not so sure.

 

[BottomlessThought]

Everything in the Bible applies, because if the Bible's messages apply, then it means they are still of value, and if they are of value, they have some degree of importance, and if they have a degree of importance, it means that they are worth considering as important, and if they are worth considering as important, they have a grain of truth to them, and if they have a grain of truth to them, they have messages in them which are true, and if they have messages that are both true and important, they still apply.

 

[savethedreams]

Everything in the Bible applies, because if the Bible's messages apply, then it means they are still of value, and if they are of value, they have some degree of importance, and if they have a degree of importance, it means that they are worth considering as important, and if they are worth considering as important, they have a grain of truth to them, and if they have a grain of truth to them, they have messages in them which are true, and if they have messages that are both true and important, they still apply.

WHAT? that sounds more like an excuse / justification more then actual based facts.

 

[A. T. Henderson]

WHAT? that sounds more like an excuse / justification more then actual based facts.

I'm not sure how you read that into what was a pretty well-thought-out response. To simplify what I believe BottomlessThought said: If the teachings of the Bible are applicable to modern life, then the Bible applies to us today.

Personally, I'd say that while a great many of the Bible's teachings do not apply to us today, the most important of them most certainly do. Just because they aren't addressed to you personally, that's no reason to ignore them.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

ACCORDING to matthew

TO THE ROMANS,

TO THE CORITHNS

I Don't see my name anywhere?

and I don't know a matthew, can't do anything without a last name.

Is their even a scripture that says that the bible applies to all mankind today. For example, the scripture on fornication, when writing to the romans does that apply to us today?

I was able to find your name 84 times in the Bible.

God knows that the only way that the Bible can possibly apply you is if He included your name more than 83 times. And we know it's your name because it has your first, middle, and last name, you're mother's maiden name, and two security questions that you made up before you were born.

 

[savethedreams]

Just because they aren't addressed to you personally, that's no reason to ignore them.

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Why?

 

[fallingblood]

ACCORDING to matthew

TO THE ROMANS,

TO THE CORITHNS

I Don't see my name anywhere?

and I don't know a matthew, can't do anything without a last name.

Is their even a scripture that says that the bible applies to all mankind today. For example, the scripture on fornication, when writing to the romans does that apply to us today?

I think you have to first understand the purpose of the Bible before you can make any comments on it. When you make a statement such as "I don't see my name anywhere" you clearly have not spent time even trying to learn.

 

[waitasec]

Does the bible REALLY apply to us today?

great question...
had people known then what we know today about the world biology and the cosmos, religion wouldn't be what it is today...

 

[Spiral Galaxy]

Does the bible REALLY apply to us today?
Yes. We should burn witches and to stone to death disobedient children and any man who seduces a virgin who is not engaged, and he actually lies down with her, he is to obtain her without fail as his wife for the purchase price.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Does the bible REALLY apply to us today?
Yes. We should burn witches and to stone to death disobedient children and any man who seduces a virgin who is not engaged, and he actually lies down with her, he is to obtain her without fail as his wife for the purchase price.

Tiresome, juvenile ridicule. How novel ...

 

[Spiral Galaxy]

Tiresome, juvenile ridicule. How novel ...

Tiresome? Tough.
Juvenile? I suppose that's meant as an ad hominem attack. Nice.
Ridicule? Of course.
Novel? Not likely when the subject matter is so old.

 

[BruceDLimber]

In the Baha'i view, each Age has its own scripture, each brought by a different God-sent Divine Messenger.

And in this Age, the Baha'i scriptures--all 200 volumes of them!--are the most recent and therefore the most apropos.

They, too, will eventually be superceded by newer scriptures brought by a new Divine Messenger.

Best!

Bruce

 

[PolyHedral]

I'm not sure how you read that into what was a pretty well-thought-out response. To simplify what I believe BottomlessThought said: If the teachings of the Bible are applicable to modern life, then the Bible applies to us today.

...Wow, that was such a wonderful post, Bottomless.

 

[BottomlessThought]

In seriousness, I would have to say "No".

WHAT? that sounds more like an excuse / justification more then actual based facts.

It might still be easier said than done to disprove it.

I'm not sure how you read that into what was a pretty well-thought-out response. To simplify what I believe BottomlessThought said: If the teachings of the Bible are applicable to modern life, then the Bible applies to us today.

Wow, I'm not sure I meant anything at all.

...Wow, that was such a wonderful post, Bottomless.

Thank you.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Tiresome? Tough.
Juvenile? I suppose that's meant as an ad hominem attack.

No, it was meant as an observation. Meanwhile, to suggest that those who respect the relevance of the Torah believe that ...

We should burn witches and to stone to death disobedient children and any man who seduces a virgin who is not engaged, and he actually lies down with her, he is to obtain her without fail as his wife for the purchase price.​

... is as outrageous and disingenuous as it is stupid and stands as the most juvenile of ad hominem attacks.

 

[Spiral Galaxy]

No, it was meant as an observation. Meanwhile, to suggest that those who respect the relevance of the Torah believe that ...

We should burn witches and to stone to death disobedient children and any man who seduces a virgin who is not engaged, and he actually lies down with her, he is to obtain her without fail as his wife for the purchase price.​

... is as outrageous and disingenuous as it is stupid and stands as the most juvenile of ad hominem attacks.

Don't straw man me. I made no such ad hominem (to the person) attack. I am mocking and ridiculing the contents of a book, not a person. There is a big difference. You may find it outrageous and think I'm disingenuous but there's not much I can do about that. However you have used the word "juvenile" again and that does sound like it refers to a person and I suspect it may be intended to be pejorative.

 

[fallingblood]

Does the bible REALLY apply to us today?
Yes. We should burn witches and to stone to death disobedient children and any man who seduces a virgin who is not engaged, and he actually lies down with her, he is to obtain her without fail as his wife for the purchase price.

Nice way of showing ridiculous biases. And really, you present us with a great example of someone who has no idea what the Bible is about, but can do a Google search about the "evil" in the Bible, and then repeat it blindly.

 

[fallingblood]

Don't straw man me. I made no such ad hominem (to the person) attack. I am mocking and ridiculing the contents of a book, not a person. There is a big difference. You may find it outrageous and think I'm disingenuous but there's not much I can do about that. However you have used the word "juvenile" again and that does sound like it refers to a person and I suspect it may be intended to be pejorative.

You are mocking something that you simply do not understand. That's the problem. You are making ignorant statements on a subject you have done no real study on. Instead, you only spread intolerance (as those verses are used to attack Christianity and Judaism), and hatred.

Maybe, before you respond, you should actually look at the Bible with an unbiased eye. Because if that is all you get from the Bible, then you really haven't read it or understood it.

 

[PolyHedral]

Maybe, before you respond, you should actually look at the Bible with an unbiased eye.

Doing that just results in it being an Iron Age soruce among many, many of which advocate much the same things. Iron age documents are not normally considered relavent to modern life.