Does the bible REALLY apply to us today?

[savethedreams]

As someone who hates Christianity, I'd like to state that the fact that the Bible does not mention you personally is a rather poor reason for rejecting it.

Not personally in the context of the scriptures he WAS NOT SPEAKING, or the author was NOT speaking to the people of today.

 

[savethedreams]

Yes of course the Bible applies today, from Genesis to Revelation. For Paul wrote in 2 Tim. 3:14-17, "But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, 15 and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

Furthermore, Paul wrote in Romans 4:18-24, "Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations, just as it had been said to him, "So shall your offspring be." 19 Without weakening in his faith, he faced the fact that his body was as good as dead--since he was about a hundred years old--and that Sarah's womb was also dead. 20 Yet he did not waver through unbelief regarding the promise of God, but was strengthened in his faith and gave glory to God, 21 being fully persuaded that God had power to do what he had promised. 22 This is why "it was credited to him as righteousness." 23 The words "it was credited to him" were written not for him alone, 24 but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness--for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead."

Moreover, Paul wrote in 1 Cor. 10:1-11, "For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. 2 They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3 They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5 Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered over the desert. 6 Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did. 7 Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: "The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in pagan revelry." 8 We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did--and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 9 We should not test the Lord, as some of them did--and were killed by snakes. 10 And do not grumble, as some of them did--and were killed by the destroying angel. 11 These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come."

Therefore, the Bible does indeed apply to us today, and so this means that sins such as fornication, audultery, homesexuality and so on apply to us today also.

From Infancy? Wasn't he writing a letter to Timothy? MY NAME IS NOT TIMOTHY.

I really dislike when People say the titles of books. It is titled 'A letter TO TIMOTHY" so you would say In the LETTER TO TIMOTHY its said:

You would say "TO THE ROMANS it says: ....."

 

[Heathen Hammer]

The Crusades weren't really about religion, anyway.

TYhroughly debateable, certainly more for the common soldier. As for the leaders, sure, but the common man went for absolution, which was guaranteed, and to obey the occasional direct edicts from the Pope to go take Jerusalem.

These are undeniable faith-based reasons.

 

[A. T. Henderson]

TYhroughly debateable, certainly more for the common soldier. As for the leaders, sure, but the common man went for absolution, which was guaranteed, and to obey the occasional direct edicts from the Pope to go take Jerusalem.

These are undeniable faith-based reasons.

While this is true, the motivations of the common soldiers are largely unrelated to the actual causes of a war.

"Christian duty" has been used as motivation to get common soldiers to go to war since Christian duty first became a thing, but at no time could it have be truly said that Christianity itself was the root cause of the war being fought.

 

[fallingblood]

I'm not over their in the soviet union, and i am an african-american in the united states. 100% negriod lol so, I think they would kill me to , or Joesph would as well. So I can take responisibility if I'm the victim. Both Crusades and Stalin would have me killed.

WRONG, NEXT

And both would have killed me, so how can I, as a Christian, take responsibility? Your logic is flawed, and you've shown you have no argument.

 

[savethedreams]

And both would have killed me, so how can I, as a Christian, take responsibility? Your logic is flawed, and you've shown you have no argument.

Now i think about it , okay sure. Good point. You are responsible for you own actions as an individual despite how others in history have used their abusive power.

However, what would have happened if the Christian Crusades never happened?

 

[Heathen Hammer]

While this is true, the motivations of the common soldiers are largely unrelated to the actual causes of a war.

"Christian duty" has been used as motivation to get common soldiers to go to war since Christian duty first became a thing, but at no time could it have be truly said that Christianity itself was the root cause of the war being fought.

Something's got to cause the soldier to participate The crusades weren't necessarily forced conscription. Especially given the letters on them from various Popes.