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Does this talk about the sin of lucid dreaming?

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Frank Goad

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Jeremiah 29:8
King James Version

8 For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Let not your prophets and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither hearken to your dreams which ye cause to be dreamed.

Zechariah 10:2
King James Version

2 For the idols have spoken vanity, and the diviners have seen a lie, and have told false dreams; they comfort in vain: therefore they went their way as a flock, they were troubled, because there was no shepherd.

I found this at BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible in over 150 versions and 50 languages.
 
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Lain

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Frank Goad said:
Jeremiah 29:8
King James Version

8 For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Let not your prophets and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither hearken to your dreams which ye cause to be dreamed.

Zechariah 10:2
King James Version

2 For the idols have spoken vanity, and the diviners have seen a lie, and have told false dreams; they comfort in vain: therefore they went their way as a flock, they were troubled, because there was no shepherd.

I found this at BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible in over 150 versions and 50 languages.
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No. It's speaking about false divination and false prophecy.
 
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Lain

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The Hammer said:
So real/accurate divination and prophecy is ok?
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Yes. Examples of the former would be the lot-casting in the Scriptures in which God answered, and the latter is everywhere in the Scriptures but particularly one can point to Isaiah, Ezekiel, Elijah, Elisha, Moses, St. Paul, and the Lord Jesus Himself for examples. In my opinion of course.
 
The Hammer

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Lain said:
Yes. Examples of the former would be the lot-casting in the Scriptures in which God answered, and the latter is everywhere in the Scriptures but particularly one can point to Isaiah, Ezekiel, Elijah, Elisha, Moses, St. Paul, and the Lord Jesus Himself for examples. In my opinion of course.
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So could Frank use tarot or other forms of divination to speak to God? If he was decent at it?

I like tarot or runic divination myself, but I'm also working on astrology and numerology.
 
The Hammer

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Conscious thoughts said:
I believe the verses speak about use of tarot cards and so to "see" the future when it speaks of divination, and if I remember correctly the Bible say divination is wrong.
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I don't think any tool is inherently wrong, only the misapplication of it is wrong. I would think the Gods agree. IMO
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
The Hammer said:
I don't think any tool is inherently wrong, only the misapplication of it is wrong. I would think the Gods agree. IMO
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My knowledge about divination is limited, even I did use Lenormand card years ago, lenormand card are similar to tarot but simpler to use)
My experience was that my intuition about the spiritual realm was hightend
 
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Hockeycowboy

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Good reasoning, Frank! Interesting Scriptures!

If they were “speaking lies,” and if they were receiving dreams that apparently were from an unseen source, then we can determine it wasn’t God behind it, but rather His enemy the Devil, “the father of the lie.” John 8:44
 
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