Riders
Well-Known Member
Oh we caused world war 2 and slavery eh?
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Donald Jr says DNC platform is similar to nazi's
- Thread starter tytlyf
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Oh we caused world war 2 and slavery eh?
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
If you weren't aware that they are ALSO the Americans who attack European socialism as being related to NAZism, I'm happy I was able to educate you.
Augustus
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Very naive... What you are forgetting is that it's a precarious and very slippery slope. Once you've suggested something as nefarious as universal healthcare, it's only a teeny-tiny step before you're invading Poland and implementing a programme of industrialised genocide
"Me first" are the words of narcissism, not leadership. I prefer to align with those who think more like Jesus who said we should love our neighbors as ourselves, not "me first". Move forward, into adulthood, not revert into early childhood with the, "Me first" view of self and others.
Nazi Platform
Well it appears that some of their ideas reflect the DNC's platform. Note: I said some. So @tytlyf do you and others agree with the points below that I asked "Do you agree with this @tytlyf "
1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf. disregard the Treaties of Versailles
3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.
4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.
5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.
6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf (I do)
We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.
7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.
9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
Therefore we demand:
11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.
20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:
(a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.
(b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.
(c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.
Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:
COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD
25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.
Translation: Make Germany Great again. Close the borders. Violate treaties we don't like. Fake News. Only certain races can be true citizens. Blame immigrants for our problems.
Doesn't sound like the Dems to me.
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I align with politicians who actually are "Americastan first".
Audie
Veteran Member
This was in the news today.
It's the gal whom the New York Times just hired for its editorial board.
http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxne...e.img.jpg/612/344/1533218702405.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
Did I mention that she's on the editorial board?
Her perspective drives the newspaper's perspective, ie, bias.
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So....you dislike having someone associate your side with Hitler?
This is something to remember next time you're tempted to
point that finger in someone else's direction.
I try to avoid calling people Nazi’s if they are not Nazi’s.
With that said:
Arthur J. Jones - Wikipedia
This guy is a Nazi.
And I am not going to mention which party he is representing, because believe it or not that is not my point.
With that said:
Arthur J. Jones - Wikipedia
This guy is a Nazi.
And I am not going to mention which party he is representing, because believe it or not that is not my point.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Then why the heck did you bring it up, if that WASN'T your implication?
So stop playing imply then deny
How about you tell us directly what your point is, so we don't have to try to guess what you're trying to say, and then we'll all know, rather than have to dance the "oh, but I never said..." tap dance.
It's not a platform (which would list values), it's a manifesto (which lists demands).Nazi Platform
Well it appears that some of their ideas reflect the DNC's platform. Note: I said some. So @tytlyf do you and others agree with the points below that I asked "Do you agree with this @tytlyf "
1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf. disregard the Treaties of Versailles
3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.
4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.
5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.
6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf (I do)
We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.
7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.
9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
Therefore we demand:
11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.
20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:
(a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.
(b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.
(c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.
Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:
COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD
25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.
Do you agree with this @tytlyf
The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
As you well know, I am no fan of the Democratic Party. That said, I find Trump Jr's comments to be ill-informed, at best and highly disturbing if he genuinely believes there is some fuzzy connection between 1930 Nazi policies and 2018 Democrat policies. Frankly, I'm not seeing the connection. I'm hoping this is a poorly thought out response given after watching D'souza's disingenuous film that influenced his judgment to make such a monumentally stupid statement.
tytlyf
Not Religious
No, that isn't the platform.
If we're comparing parties, the neo-nazi's vote republican. They're out with their tiki torches chanting "Jews will not replace us."
The confederate flag wavers, all republican. The KKK, republican supporters. The people who idolize Hitler, republican.
It's a false equivalency
Just look at these DemoKKKrats
tytlyf
Not Religious
Hey, let me list a bunch of nonsense and let you figure out what to make of it.
Then blame you for my nonsense.
Great debating skills there.
Stanyon
WWMRD?
If you take away the whole Nazi Germany aspect I think most people would agree that more than a few of Adolph Hitlers speeches contain some concepts I am sure most Democrats would agree with:
The idea of the unification of all classes
Social welfare is the responsibility of all rich or poor:
"Everyone must help, whether you are rich or poor! Everyone must have the belief that there's always someone in a much worse situation than I am, and this person I want to help as a comrade. If one should say : Yes, but do I have to sacrifice a lot? That is the glory of giving! When you sacrifice for your community, you can walk with your head held up high."
-Adolph Hitler
On creation of a new state/new beginning/ defeating Trump and the deplorables in 2020:
"A new state cannot simply fall from the sky, instead it has to grow from within the people. Because when I need loyalty, belief , confidence, fanaticism, and commitment then I must turn to where I can find these values and these values can always be found in the people themselves, in the masses of the people."
-Adolph Hitler
fostering ideas in young potential Democratic voters:
"We have been witnesses to the consequences of this aberration of the spirit, in your youth you must safeguard that which you possess the great feeling of comradeship of being part of the group, if you hold on to this, then there is no force in the world that can take it from you. You will be one people bound together as tightly as you are now. As young (*Democrats) German youth, our only hope, the courage and faith of our people. You, my youth, are indeed the living guarantee of the living future of (*the United States) Germany. (*The Democratic party is) not an empty idea, not an empty formalism, or an insipid plan. {snip} May (*America) Germany live and may her future be praised"
-Adolph Hitler
* my edits
*Moderators: If this post is reported please consider the context, the addition of the video was not intended to incite, inflame, or troll, this was for illustrative purposes.
The idea of the unification of all classes
Social welfare is the responsibility of all rich or poor:
"Everyone must help, whether you are rich or poor! Everyone must have the belief that there's always someone in a much worse situation than I am, and this person I want to help as a comrade. If one should say : Yes, but do I have to sacrifice a lot? That is the glory of giving! When you sacrifice for your community, you can walk with your head held up high."
-Adolph Hitler
On creation of a new state/new beginning/ defeating Trump and the deplorables in 2020:
"A new state cannot simply fall from the sky, instead it has to grow from within the people. Because when I need loyalty, belief , confidence, fanaticism, and commitment then I must turn to where I can find these values and these values can always be found in the people themselves, in the masses of the people."
-Adolph Hitler
fostering ideas in young potential Democratic voters:
"We have been witnesses to the consequences of this aberration of the spirit, in your youth you must safeguard that which you possess the great feeling of comradeship of being part of the group, if you hold on to this, then there is no force in the world that can take it from you. You will be one people bound together as tightly as you are now. As young (*Democrats) German youth, our only hope, the courage and faith of our people. You, my youth, are indeed the living guarantee of the living future of (*the United States) Germany. (*The Democratic party is) not an empty idea, not an empty formalism, or an insipid plan. {snip} May (*America) Germany live and may her future be praised"
-Adolph Hitler
* my edits
*Moderators: If this post is reported please consider the context, the addition of the video was not intended to incite, inflame, or troll, this was for illustrative purposes.
tytlyf
Not Religious
You'd think the democrat party would have the support these days of nazi lovers and the KKK with their platform. Apparently not.