Donigerism and Kripalism

[Jaskaran Singh]

So, I believe that Mr. Falks and Mr. Narasingha P. Sil are far more dangerous than Ms. Doniger and Mr. Kripal, who actually used many of Mr. Sil's work without further checking up the actual words and their contextual meanings.
Again thank you all for reading and helping to dissipate the pain.

praNAm,
sAnyAl did indeed translate it as "****," I can upload the text if you want. However, I'm not sure if it is written as "****" in the ba~NgalI version of the text, I agree that it may have been kuNDa or yonI instead (I don't have the original text); you should go ask Sil for the ba~NgAlI version since he's apparently the so-called "academic" obsessing over the sexual references, right?
Oh and shubh holI to you too...

 

[Vinayaka]

Namaste Vinayaka

I agree with you. It would be best to leave these aside and do one's own puja, japa, dhyana and studies.

But suppose someone says some horrendous things about some one you love -- about your parents, about your sister, or about your wife, etc., will you be peaceful?

Shri Ramana Maharshi is my guru and I should probably not be bothered about this, but I was disturbed too much after reading certain posts.

But that cannot be said about Geoffrey Falk and Narasingha P. Sil. I will show in the next post why I think so. Honestly, under oath of Shiva, I say that this thread is a product of pain and I am not enjoying it. The following post should be my last post in this thread, if not provoked beyond tolerance.

I thank all.

Critics will criticize. In my opinion, the worst are of another faith which I won't mention. In order to make oneself feel taller they go after the 'opposition'. It's a lower mind strata, but still part of Siva's divine dance.

You would not believe some of the conclusions I've seen people come to. One was that Hinduism was spawned by ________. Anybody with an open mind can see this for what it is ... a way to make money, a repressed narrow mind, etc.

 

[Ravi500]

Recently something drew my attention to Mr. Jefferey Kripal and his guru Ms.Wendy Doniger. Being a science person and from a R&D background, I have usually ignored criticisms of Wendy et al. and their alleged penchant to see phallus and sex everywhere. I must acknowledge that I had silently thought that being serious academicians Wendy et al must be authentic and dependable.

Then I came to know of ‘Kali’s Child’, the PhD thesis of Mr. Jeffrey Kripal, a student of Wendy Doniger. The thesis was apparently prepared in 1995 when Kripal was about 30 year old.

I must admit that I was shocked beyond imagination by reading it. I was shocked that an academician can allow such so-called scholarship, which was evidently not true to word meanings, not attuned to cultural context, and which belied an ignorance of the difference between materialistic and a spiritualistic orientations. As will be seen later in a point by point analysis, the work is full of insertion of phrases (mainly pointing towards sexual theme) on one hand, and deletion of crucial portions, all to fit into a biased conclusion that the author wanted by any whatsoever way possible. All these things combines to make the PhD thesis a travesty.

(contd.)

Jeffrey Kripal, a student of Wendy Doniger !! Lol....

I never knew it. It makes a lot of sense now.

Indeed we have a history of oriental topics and subjects being misinterpreted and distorted by pseudo-scholars . What a pity.

Perhaps this is how the sport of Kali Yuga must go.

 

[atanu]

On the subject of potential mis-representation, I cite another example.

David Frawley is a devotee of Shri Ramana Maharshi and has written many times in Ramanasramam's publication "The Mountain Path". One such paper is :

Misconceptions about Advaita – American Institute of Vedic Studies

He talks of the danger of trivialising the teachings of Shri Ramana. I quote a passage from the paper:

However, a recent trend has been to remove Advaita from Vedanta, as if it were a different or independent path, and not bring in the greater tradition of Vedanta. Though neo-Advaita usually bases itself on modern Advaita Vedantins like Ramana Maharshi or Nisargadatta, it usually leaves the Vedanta out of the term and neglects the teachings of other great modern Vedantins from Vivekananda to Dayananda, though their works are easily available in English and quite relevant to any Advaitic practice.

But, recently, a Wiki page has sprung up, sustained by efforts of one Mr. Joshua Jonathan that says the following, while drawing support from Frawley's article of the Mountain Path referred above.

Neo-Advaita, also called the Satsang-movement[1] and Nondualism,[web 1] is New Religious Movement deriving authority from the teachings of the 20th century sage Ramana Maharshi,[web 2]

The Wiki page is at: Neo-Advaita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The page was recommended for deletion by an Indian but is preserved by efforts of Mr. Jonathan.

The question is: Has Mr. Frawley said that the Neo Advaita movement (or whatever) was taught by Shri Ramana Maharshi? Or is it an interpolation or a slip of a language of Mr. Joshua Jonathan?

If we extend it a bit we can as well say that God is responsible for all our ills.

The tendency to delink Vaidika scripture from Hinduism is, IMO, wrong. To alter the scriptural definition of Brahman is a sin.

But has Shri Ramana taught any such thing? Has Vivekanada taught any such thing?