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double standard...

jewscout

Religious Zionist
...i was just thinking about something...

why is it that when a woman gets pregnant often we give the credit to the man...you know, sticking cigars in people's mouths, "You sly dog, you!", or make a comment to the potency of the man's...stuff...

while it seems to me that often times when there is a problem w/ getting pregnant we often look to the woman as being the source of this problem...when sometimes it's not...

is this accurate? Have you guys encountered this mindset before?? or am i just totally off base on this?
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
jewscout said:
...i was just thinking about something...

why is it that when a woman gets pregnant often we give the credit to the man...you know, sticking cigars in people's mouths, "You sly dog, you!", or make a comment to the potency of the man's...stuff...

while it seems to me that often times when there is a problem w/ getting pregnant we often look to the woman as being the source of this problem...when sometimes it's not...

is this accurate? Have you guys encountered this mindset before?? or am i just totally off base on this?

I'm not a guy - but I have experienced. The doctors all look to me and have never said anything about my husband.
 

Faint

Well-Known Member
jewscout said:
...i was just thinking about something...

why is it that when a woman gets pregnant often we give the credit to the man...you know, sticking cigars in people's mouths, "You sly dog, you!", or make a comment to the potency of the man's...stuff...
We travel in very different social circles. For almost every guy I know who has gotten a girl pregnant it's been by accident. So there's never any congratulating going on. More likely you'd hear comments like, "Wow..." or "Damn..." or "What're you two going to do about it?" or "Oops."

jewscout said:
while it seems to me that often times when there is a problem w/ getting pregnant we often look to the woman as being the source of this problem...when sometimes it's not...

is this accurate? Have you guys encountered this mindset before?? or am i just totally off base on this?
If people just assume there's something wrong with the woman's fertility (without knowing the results of fertility exams for both the man and woman) then they're being stupid. Personally I haven't met anyone who generalizes like this yet.
 

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
jewscout said:
is this accurate? Have you guys encountered this mindset before?? or am i just totally off base on this?
It's a very ancient mindset. In fact, it's in the bible.

You come across quite a few passages where women are either blamed for not getting pregnant, or they are cursed by God into not getting pregnant. You'll never find it mentioning issues with the man's fertility.
 
Yes unfortunately it is a double standard that exists that sometimes we indirectly perpetuate. I think it's loosely related to abortion because you will always hear how the woman getting pregnant was ALL her fault, but noone ever asks about what the man did. It takes TWO to conceive. In fact if anything in an unintended pregnancy, the blame is always on the woman about how she was irresponsible, immature, and negligent whereas you hear about how the man shouldn't be forced to be a father and so forth.

When there is a problem getting pregnant, I think it stems back farther away, back when men realized that it was something they did to the woman to get her pregnant. Before it was a mystery and hell, pregnant women and their bodies were worshipped! But after men figured out it was something they also did too, the mindset that there is a "seed" inside a woman that needs a man's stuff to grow is where people think that there must be something wrong with the woman when she cannot conceive which I think is total crack outta the pot.

I mean, look at the King Henry the VIVI or whatever it was. He married and killed off almost all of his poor 8 wives and never once was able to impregnate them. And they were punished for HIS problem!
 
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