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Drunk,pork,homosexual what Bible tells ?

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
We do believe Allah sent to all nations messangers.
https://quran.com/16:36


There is no contradiction in God saved Quran but not others Books,That's Allah wish.

It's same if you say why Allah sent prophets and messangers, some of them are killed. and othes saved , why He did not sent JUST one.

It's not the same, because the Bible answers why He sent multiple prophets. How do you know the last prophet is the chief, most important prophet?
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
https://quran.com/2/62

Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.

It's actually in past tense. All prophets were Muslims,Islam means submission to Allah.

Allah knows best.

Does that explain the Sura dictating that muslims fight against unbelievers, including Jews and Christians, until the pay the Jizya or are otherwise subdued?

I recommend instead you trust Jesus for 100% assurance of salvation!
 

azim24

Member
I recommend otherwise for you:)
And they say, "None will enter Paradise except one who is a Jew or a Christian." That is [merely] their wishful thinking, Say, "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful." 2:111
They say, "Be Jews or Christians [so] you will be guided." Say, "Rather, [we follow] the religion of Abraham, inclining toward truth, and he was not of the polytheists." 2:135
Say, [O believers], "We have believed in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him." 2:136 Quran


 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Does that explain the Sura dictating that muslims fight against unbelievers, including Jews and Christians, until the pay the Jizya or are otherwise subdued?

I recommend instead you trust Jesus for 100% assurance of salvation!
You have low level about Islam.

Jizya is pay of protection(it's very few money),instead of join to Muslims army in defence wars.
IF non-Muslims join to army there will be no Jizya.

Anyway it's stopped for long long time deal with that law, because all "non-Muslims" became integration citizens ,and equal to Muslims,in duties and responsiblities,
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
It's not the same, because the Bible answers why He sent multiple prophets. How do you know the last prophet is the chief, most important prophet?
In Muslim view:
Last prophet for Jews was Jesus(pbuh)
The last prophet sent to all humanity. was Muhammad (pbuh),that in Muslim view.
 
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BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
You have both failed to quote the verses about fighting with Jews, Christians and infidels.

Jews paid the Jizya in nearly 100% muslim countries for over 1,000 years. Why? If everyone around them is muslim, who did they need protection tax against? Jews are fleeing muslim countries to Israel with horror stories of rapes, murders and persecutions over the centuries.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
You have both failed to quote the verses about fighting with Jews, Christians and infidels.

Jews paid the Jizya in nearly 100% muslim countries for over 1,000 years. Why? If everyone around them is muslim, who did they need protection tax against? Jews are fleeing muslim countries to Israel with horror stories of rapes, murders and persecutions over the centuries.
This is false information.

This is not DIR to discuss this with you, if you want just post a thread about this in debate Forum, we will discuss this:)
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
as i understand , the Christians may believe that Jesus (pbuh) comes with new laws from God which different that Torah (OT), so He allow wine and eat pork what was forbidden.


Jesus not only permitted the drinking of wine he created it from water in a miracle of the wedding feast.
He also chose the drinking of wine in what became the Eucharist to be his memorial.
He drank wine with his disciples.

As a Jew he did not eat pork, but he said nothing against the gentiles eating it.
Of meats available in the middle East, it was perhaps the most dangerous if not thoroughly cooked, but there is nothing unclean about it.
Homosexuality is a natural condition that affects people of all races and religions. it is like all sexuality, God Given, it is not a choice.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
This is false information.

This is not DIR to discuss this with you, if you want just post a thread about this in debate Forum, we will discuss this:)

Perhaps another time, but I will say that saying this is false information is saying that thousands of Jewish people who share these stories, coming from many muslim countries, are liars.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Perhaps another time, but I will say that saying this is false information is saying that thousands of Jewish people who share these stories, coming from many muslim countries, are liars.
I do respect the DIR rules :)
 
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