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Dutch cities want to ban property investors in all neighborhoods

Stevicus

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Dutch cities want to ban property investors in all neighborhoods

The large municipalities in the Netherlands plan to make wide use of a legislative amendment that will allow them to designate neighborhoods where investors won't be allowed to buy cheap and medium-priced homes and rent them out, NOS found after surveying the municipalities.

This legislative amendment is expected to take effect on January 1. The intention is to give people looking for a home a better chance of finding one on the tight Dutch housing market. Last year, a third of all homes sold in the four large cities were bought by investors.

Amsterdam told NOS that if it can, it will use this purchase protection for the entire municipality. Utrecht said the same. "Especially because we want to prevent a waterbed effect," a spokesperson said, referring to investors targeting more expensive homes if they can no longer buy those in the lower segments.

Tilburg is considering implementing the purchase protection in the entire city, The Hague won't rule out that possibility. Groningen is also considering it, but is cautious. "We are going to see whether we can use the scheme as widely as possible, but we must be able to substantiate that," a spokesperson for the municipality of Groningen said to NOS.

The amendment states that municipalities must "substantiate whether and in which neighborhoods imbalanced and unjust effects occur due to the scarcity of cheap and medium-priced owner-occupied homes". The municipalities must also show that the purchase protection is "necessary and effective" in the chosen neighborhoods. The amendment does not set a price limit for cheap and medium-priced homes, as a cheap home in Amsterdam can easily cost as much as an expensive one in Groningen, for example. So municipalities will have to set - and explain - the price limits themselves.

This looks like an interesting idea to keep inflated housing prices from getting out of control. It appears to just apply to single homes, not apartments, although it's not clear. But it does seem to be a problem in some areas, where people from outside the area buy up property as an investment, which jacks up the prices for everyone else.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
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Benelux, the center of the EU has always been the beacon of merciless neo-liberism, whose ECB is the main promoter.
Maybe this global health emergency has induced some heartless dragons to repent.
And to have mercy on the middle class who has the right to owning property.
And my country knows about dragons...
 

PureX

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Dutch cities want to ban property investors in all neighborhoods

This looks like an interesting idea to keep inflated housing prices from getting out of control. It appears to just apply to single homes, not apartments, although it's not clear. But it does seem to be a problem in some areas, where people from outside the area buy up property as an investment, which jacks up the prices for everyone else.
Wow! Imagine there being a culture somewhere on the Earth that does not hold profits to capital investors to be the most sacred of all human endeavors! And instead, considered the well-being of the humans being effected by that investment to be more important! UNBELIEVABLE! (Certainly unbelievable to anyone in the U.S.,.)
 

RestlessSoul

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Successive governments in the UK have left the provision of housing entirely to the free market. In London anyway, this has been an absolute disaster for the majority of ordinary working people; sure, a few got rich and moved out, but this just forces house prices in rural areas above the pockets of local people there. And the sons and daughters of those who joined the exodus, have no chance of settling back in the capital, unless they want to pay through the nose to rent a tiny space.

Good luck to the Dutch, if they are trying to prevent their cities from being colonised by investors in the way London has been.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
I predict that this will lead to a boom in multi-home apartments specifically to circumvent these rules.

They are treating a symptom, and perhaps they may even succeed temporarily, but the root cause is capitalism.
 

SomeRandom

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Wow! Imagine there being a culture somewhere on the Earth that does not hold profits to capital investors to be the most sacred of all human endeavors! And instead, considered the well-being of the humans being effected by that investment to be more important! UNBELIEVABLE! (Certainly unbelievable to anyone in the U.S.,.)
Europe always did seem like filthy communist types. At least compared to the US :shrug:
 

F1fan

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Europe always did seem like filthy communist types. At least compared to the US :shrug:
Because they want to manage their society to better create economic stability rather than letting greed (financial instability) lead to chaos and collapse? The rich will always be able to better survive the collapse, and the rest will live in the anxiety of fake freedom that they don't actually have.
 

SomeRandom

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Because they want to manage their society to better create economic stability rather than letting greed (financial instability) lead to chaos and collapse? The rich will always be able to better survive the collapse, and the rest will live in the anxiety of fake freedom that they don't actually have.
Damn filthy commies! Caring about their citizens like that.
In all seriousness I still marvel at just how successful the red scare propaganda still is in the US
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Europe always did seem like filthy communist types. At least compared to the US :shrug:
When faced with the threat of communism, West and Central European governments of the mid-20th century thought it best to keep the working class content with minimal reforms and labor rights.

When faced with the threat of communism, American governments thought it best to lead domestic purges and invade countries.
 

SomeRandom

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When faced with the threat of communism, West and Central European governments of the mid-20th century thought it best to keep the working class content with minimal reforms and labor rights.

When faced with the threat of communism, American governments thought it best to lead domestic purges and invade countries.
Ahh those freedom loving Americans. Always acting like the world superpower that they are.
Seriously I say this with love, US politics genuinely scares me. They’re so regressive and divisive. Just from an outsider’s perspective
 

F1fan

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Damn filthy commies! Caring about their citizens like that.
In all seriousness I still marvel at just how successful the red scare propaganda still is in the US
Basically it's anything that falls into the category of "love thy neighbor as thyself". Terrible.
 

F1fan

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Ahh those freedom loving Americans. Always acting like the world superpower that they are.
Seriously I say this with love, US politics genuinely scares me. They’re so regressive and divisive. Just from an outsider’s perspective
Well. once God abandoned England as THE divine imperial power on the planet the door was open to the USA.
 

SomeRandom

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Basically it's anything that falls into the category of "love thy neighbor as thyself". Terrible.
Very good point. For a supposedly Christian country, the actions don’t seem very Christ like.
 

F1fan

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Very good point. For a supposedly Christian country, the actions don’t seem very Christ like.
And the most fervent, conservative Christians are the least Christ-like. It's almost as if the notion of anti-Christ was talking about them. So the deeper the belief the farther away they get.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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Dutch cities want to ban property investors in all neighborhoods



This looks like an interesting idea to keep inflated housing prices from getting out of control. It appears to just apply to single homes, not apartments, although it's not clear. But it does seem to be a problem in some areas, where people from outside the area buy up property as an investment, which jacks up the prices for everyone else.
I'm seeing much home price inflation, but from home owners.
I've managed single family homes in residential areas, generally
for people who lived in them, but had employment changes.
In each case the income wasn't enuf to justify the value of the
house. I always recommended selling.
So I question the value of preventing investing in such properties.
Inflation will continue. But hey, no one likes investors, so tinkle
on them, eh.
 

SomeRandom

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And the most fervent, conservative Christians are the least Christ-like. It's almost as if the notion of anti-Christ was talking about them. So the deeper the belief the farther away they get.
Are you talking evangelicals? Because if so I totally agree. I’ve seen documentary after documentary about the movement and they’re the least Christ like lot I’ve ever seen!
Granted I’m aware that such folks might not represent the average evangelical, I’m just speaking from my personal experiences
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I'm seeing much home price inflation, but from home owners.
I've managed single family homes in residential areas, generally
for people who lived in them, but had employment changes.
In each case the income wasn't enuf to justify the value of the
house. I always recommended selling.
So I question the value of preventing investing in such properties.
Inflation will continue. But hey, no one likes investors, so tinkle
on them, eh.
We are really talking about the free market and whether banks are willing to loan on properties with increasing values. We saw the effects of a housing bubble in 2009, albeit a lot of that was bad loans with variable interest rates. But still the wealthy can afford to buy a house and lose value in the long term, or ride out a collapse and a rebound. The average person can't afford the cost of a house in a rising market, or must gamble on juggling the equity in one home to cover the down payment for the next. A lot of this is risk that the average person can't control.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Are you talking evangelicals? Because if so I totally agree. I’ve seen documentary after documentary about the movement and they’re the least Christ like lot I’ve ever seen!
Yes. I have some of them in my family and I'm stunned how fervent they are as Christians and totally contrary to what Jesus taught. It's like a bad joke.

Granted I’m aware that such folks might not represent the average evangelical, I’m just speaking from my personal experiences
I think it's a natural evolution of any ideology that it will have branches that become extreme and intolerant. The customers are there for the churches, they will profit (and not pay taxes).
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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We are really talking about the free market and whether banks are willing to loan on properties with increasing values. We saw the effects of a housing bubble in 2009, albeit a lot of that was bad loans with variable interest rates. But still the wealthy can afford to buy a house and lose value in the long term, or ride out a collapse and a rebound. The average person can't afford the cost of a house in a rising market, or must gamble on juggling the equity in one home to cover the down payment for the next. A lot of this is risk that the average person can't control.
Still, owner occupants are the ones driving up home prices.
As for bubbles, the causes are numerous, tax free capital
gains, subsidized interest, federally created high LTV lenders,
tax deductable interest & property taxes, instiutitional currency
devaluation that encourages treating homes as hedges against
inflation.
 
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