Dutch cities want to ban property investors in all neighborhoods

[SomeRandom]

Yes. I have some of them in my family and I'm stunned how fervent they are as Christians and totally contrary to what Jesus taught. It's like a bad joke.
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I only know moderate Christians if I’m honest. Very nice Christ like folk. The evangelicals I’ve seen make a mockery of his teachings. It saddens me. Though I do find them fascinating in a bad way. Mostly because of the whole Qanon thing. There was even a news special about why evangelicals believed Q at such high rates. Only evangelical I like is Lacey Sturm from Flyleaf. Because she seems to be a decent kind hearted person.
And I listened to Flyleaf as an angsty teen lol

I think it's a natural evolution of any ideology that it will have branches that become extreme and intolerant. The customers are there for the churches, they will profit (and not pay taxes).

Very true. Even the religious in my family lament how business like religion is

 

[Stevicus]

I'm seeing much home price inflation, but from home owners.
I've managed single family homes in residential areas, generally
for people who lived in them, but had employment changes.
In each case the income wasn't enuf to justify the value of the
house. I always recommended selling.
So I question the value of preventing investing in such properties.
Inflation will continue. But hey, no one likes investors, so tinkle
on them, eh.

Some might see it as an unfair advantage.

I wouldn't necessarily say that "no one likes investors," but in a way, they're not unlike ticket scalpers.

 

[Revoltingest]

Some might see it as an unfair advantage.

To whom...home buyers with more money?

I wouldn't necessarily say that "no one likes investors," but in a way, they're not unlike ticket scalpers.

I've no problem with ticket scalpers.
But I do dislike venues that don't allow resale of tickets,
& governments that go along with such restrictions.

 

[Kooky]

I'm seeing much home price inflation, but from home owners.
I've managed single family homes in residential areas, generally
for people who lived in them, but had employment changes.
In each case the income wasn't enuf to justify the value of the
house. I always recommended selling.
So I question the value of preventing investing in such properties.
Inflation will continue. But hey, no one likes investors, so tinkle
on them, eh.

Are you familiar with the Dutch housing market?

 

[Revoltingest]

Are you familiar with the Dutch housing market?

That would depend upon how much it
differs from the US housing market.
Are you?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I predict that this will lead to a boom in multi-home apartments specifically to circumvent these rules.

Without knowing Dutch law, I expect that would require some sort of planning approval from the government, so they could still clamp down on that.

 

[Stevicus]

To whom...home buyers with more money?

It's an advantage to investment companies who are in it to make a profit, over individuals and families who are just looking for a place to live.

I've no problem with ticket scalpers.
But I do dislike venues that don't allow resale of tickets,
& governments that go along with such restrictions.

You don't see anything wrong with it? They end up buying bunches of tickets so an event is sold out much more quickly than it would have been. Then others who couldn't get tickets end up paying scalpers a lot more than they would have if the scalpers were not part of the equation.

 

[Kooky]

That would depend upon how much it
differs from the US housing market.

And you do not know that. So, no.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's an advantage to investment companies who are in it to make a profit, over individuals and families who are just looking for a place to live.

Sure, sure....but what segment of the market are
investors dominating? It's not driving single family
homes & apartments (coops & condos) cuz those
don't offer a good enuf return.
Sure there are "flippers", but not very many.
(That's over-blown as a money maker. Associates &
I have analyzed some such possibilities. None have
ever offered a profit worth the investment, effort, & risk.)

You don't see anything wrong with it? They end up buying bunches of tickets so an event is sold out much more quickly than it would have been. Then others who couldn't get tickets end up paying scalpers a lot more than they would have if the scalpers were not part of the equation.

I can see a venue limiting bulk purchases.
(No law is needed to prevent that.)
But to illegalize private sales?
Bah! Humbug!

 

[Revoltingest]

And you do not know that. So, no.

I know housing.
You don't.
Could that be why you pursue the ad hominem instead of the issue?
For once, try to add something to the discussion.

 

[Stevicus]

Sure, sure....but what segment of the market are
investors dominating? It's not driving single family
homes & apartments (coops & condos) cuz those
don't offer a good enuf return.
Sure there are "flippers", but not very many.
(That's over-blown as a money maker. Associates &
I have analyzed some such possibilities. None have
ever offered a profit worth the investment, effort, & risk.)

I see a lot of homes up for rent instead of being up for sale. That tells me that a certain percentage of homebuyers are those not looking to live in them, but just to rent them out - or maybe sell it at a profit. I don't know how much that affects the market in terms of overall numbers, but there's enough of them to be noticeable.

I can see a venue limiting bulk purchases.
(No law is needed to prevent that.)
But to illegalize private sales?
Bah! Humbug!

Well, maybe they can't illegalize it, although just the same, they're regarded as having a sleazy reputation.

 

[Revoltingest]

I see a lot of homes up for rent instead of being up for sale. That tells me that a certain percentage of homebuyers are those not looking to live in them, but just to rent them out - or maybe sell it at a profit. I don't know how much that affects the market in terms of overall numbers, but there's enough of them to be noticeable.



Well, maybe they can't illegalize it, although just the same, they're regarded as having a sleazy reputation.

I've managed such rental homes (as I mentioned before).
But in typical neighborhoods (not near universities), it's
only temporary cuz the rent doesn't cover the opportunity
cost of the value of the house.

 

[Kooky]

I know housing.
You don't.
Could that be why you pursue the ad hominem instead of the issue?
For once, try to add something to the discussion.

You have already confirmed that you do not know in the slightest how the Dutch housing market works, so it's unlikely that your uninformed statements are going to add anything to a discussion on a subject you know nothing about.

And if you consider me stating correctly your lack of knowledge on the subject a personal attack, then perhaps take that as an opportunity to inform yourself on it.

 

[Revoltingest]

You have already confirmed....

Nothing good ever starts out thus.