Dystopia on the Horizon?

[jbg]

The following, random sampling of issues may not tell it all but they tell a lot:

1. Zero students in 23 Baltimore schools passed math test
2. Supreme Court rules West Virginia transgender athletes can compete on female sports teams
3. NY teacher manipulates 9yo into changing gender..no parental knowledge
4. New Jersey the latest state to ban gas car sales.
5. Former President Trump Has Been Indicted

This is only a sampling. We are advocating schools that don't teach life skills, but concentrate on just about every irrelevant issue. We have local legislators trying to solve worldwide problems. We have New York prosecutors letting street crime go out of control while budgeting millions to take down an elderly, largely disgraced former President. We have out-of-control schools graduating no one that can do reading, writing, 'rithmetic.
Now I can understand the need to not "mass incarcerate" part of our citizenry but who is going to support all these people in an anarchic system. We no longer value education and intact families.

Something has to give!

 

[Ella S.]

When in human history have we not lived in a dystopia? At what point has there not been someone in power over us, threatening us with violence in order to force us into obedient submission? At what point have the majority of people not conformed to their mainstream culture, even to the point of turning on their own friends and family for disobeying the leaders?

You only notice it when you're no longer the one benefiting.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

My advice is take some time off of conservative news media, take a walk outside, and breathe in the fresh (or fresher) air.

 

[Viker]

I've been in dystopia most of my life. I'm supposing it could be worse, hoping it does not.

 

[Heyo]

My advice is take some time off of conservative news media, take a walk outside, and breathe in the fresh (or fresher) air.

:useful:

 

[jbg]

My advice is take some time off of conservative news media, take a walk outside, and breathe in the fresh (or fresher) air.

I do not watch much of any media. I read the New York Times which is hardly right-wing, until I'm ready to vomit.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I do not watch much of any media. I read the New York Times which is hardly right-wing, until I'm ready to vomit.

You linked to the Daily Mail. The things you brought up came from somewhere after all.

 

[jbg]

You linked to the Daily Mail. The things you brought up came from somewhere after all.

I heard about the story and Goggled for it. The question should not be "where did I find the link" but "did it happen, is this true"?

 

[Twilight Hue]

The following, random sampling of issues may not tell it all but they tell a lot:

1. Zero students in 23 Baltimore schools passed math test
2. Supreme Court rules West Virginia transgender athletes can compete on female sports teams
3. NY teacher manipulates 9yo into changing gender..no parental knowledge
4. New Jersey the latest state to ban gas car sales.
5. Former President Trump Has Been Indicted

This is only a sampling. We are advocating schools that don't teach life skills, but concentrate on just about every irrelevant issue. We have local legislators trying to solve worldwide problems. We have New York prosecutors letting street crime go out of control while budgeting millions to take down an elderly, largely disgraced former President. We have out-of-control schools graduating no one that can do reading, writing, 'rithmetic.
Now I can understand the need to not "mass incarcerate" part of our citizenry but who is going to support all these people in an anarchic system. We no longer value education and intact families.

Something has to give!

Of course it's dystopian.

Giving the appearance of a free happy society while oppression lays underfoot.

 

[Twilight Hue]

My advice is take some time off of conservative news media, take a walk outside, and breathe in the fresh (or fresher) air.

Include liberal news in that list.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I heard about the story and Goggled for it. The question should not be "where did I find the link" but "did it happen, is this true"?

Yes, but I was pointing out that you linked to a source that was not New York Times.

I apologize, but given that the list of grievances you provided are currently popular on right wing media, it seems like you either must be using this media or you spend a lot of time listening to folks who do.

This media pushes those narratives for the purpose of scaring and angering people to influence their political views.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Include liberal news in that list.

He likely did not get that list of grievances from liberal media.

 

[fantome profane]

did it happen, is this true

Did it happen? Is it true?

 

[MikeF]

The following, random sampling of issues may not tell it all but they tell a lot:

1. Zero students in 23 Baltimore schools passed math test
2. Supreme Court rules West Virginia transgender athletes can compete on female sports teams
3. NY teacher manipulates 9yo into changing gender..no parental knowledge
4. New Jersey the latest state to ban gas car sales.
5. Former President Trump Has Been Indicted

This is only a sampling. We are advocating schools that don't teach life skills, but concentrate on just about every irrelevant issue. We have local legislators trying to solve worldwide problems. We have New York prosecutors letting street crime go out of control while budgeting millions to take down an elderly, largely disgraced former President. We have out-of-control schools graduating no one that can do reading, writing, 'rithmetic.
Now I can understand the need to not "mass incarcerate" part of our citizenry but who is going to support all these people in an anarchic system. We no longer value education and intact families.

Something has to give!

Not sure how you define dystopia and whether you see only the United States on the brink of becoming a dystopian society, or that it is in store for all of mankind.

I would argue that there have always been those who have lived in dystopic conditions. Any child born into inner city poverty would be born into dystopian environment that is near impossible to overcome. I would consider the period of American slavery as a time when the United States was a fully dystopian culture.

In regards to your list, I would think Trump being indicted would be a non-dystopian event indicating that even the powerful are not above the rule of law. I would think a state moving away from fossil fuel burning cars would also be a positive step away from a future dystopia, in this case a dystopian climate of heat and pollution. Recognition and acceptance of transgender student I see as another anti-dystopian move, as to societally not accepting the reality of transgender persons relegates them to a dystopian existence, right? As to the Baltimore schools, this is hardly anything new and relates to the ever present dystopia of those who live in poverty.

 

[Augustus]

The following, random sampling of issues may not tell it all but they tell a lot:

1. Zero students in 23 Baltimore schools passed math test
2. Supreme Court rules West Virginia transgender athletes can compete on female sports teams
3. NY teacher manipulates 9yo into changing gender..no parental knowledge
4. New Jersey the latest state to ban gas car sales.
5. Former President Trump Has Been Indicted

This is only a sampling. We are advocating schools that don't teach life skills, but concentrate on just about every irrelevant issue. We have local legislators trying to solve worldwide problems. We have New York prosecutors letting street crime go out of control while budgeting millions to take down an elderly, largely disgraced former President. We have out-of-control schools graduating no one that can do reading, writing, 'rithmetic.
Now I can understand the need to not "mass incarcerate" part of our citizenry but who is going to support all these people in an anarchic system. We no longer value education and intact families.

Something has to give!

Something like:

 

[Stevicus]

The following, random sampling of issues may not tell it all but they tell a lot:

1. Zero students in 23 Baltimore schools passed math test
2. Supreme Court rules West Virginia transgender athletes can compete on female sports teams
3. NY teacher manipulates 9yo into changing gender..no parental knowledge
4. New Jersey the latest state to ban gas car sales.
5. Former President Trump Has Been Indicted

This is only a sampling. We are advocating schools that don't teach life skills, but concentrate on just about every irrelevant issue. We have local legislators trying to solve worldwide problems. We have New York prosecutors letting street crime go out of control while budgeting millions to take down an elderly, largely disgraced former President. We have out-of-control schools graduating no one that can do reading, writing, 'rithmetic.
Now I can understand the need to not "mass incarcerate" part of our citizenry but who is going to support all these people in an anarchic system. We no longer value education and intact families.

Something has to give!

Well, we certainly have a lot of different problems we're dealing with as a country, both domestically and internationally. I don't really worry about it that much, at least not anymore. Some of us knew America was heading for a fall more than 40 years ago, so it's not as if the problems we're facing today are any great surprise. I believe that Americans knew full well the consequences of fiscal irresponsibility, military adventurism, and other varieties of myopic recklessness. Everything that has happened - and everything we're facing today - is a reflection of the will of the people.

Something like:

Both liberals and conservatives have their own Chicken Little scenarios. The only thing that gets me is when some people act so shocked and outraged about events, as if they didn't know or couldn't anticipate eventualities.

 

[Colt]

The following, random sampling of issues may not tell it all but they tell a lot:

1. Zero students in 23 Baltimore schools passed math test
2. Supreme Court rules West Virginia transgender athletes can compete on female sports teams
3. NY teacher manipulates 9yo into changing gender..no parental knowledge
4. New Jersey the latest state to ban gas car sales.
5. Former President Trump Has Been Indicted

This is only a sampling. We are advocating schools that don't teach life skills, but concentrate on just about every irrelevant issue. We have local legislators trying to solve worldwide problems. We have New York prosecutors letting street crime go out of control while budgeting millions to take down an elderly, largely disgraced former President. We have out-of-control schools graduating no one that can do reading, writing, 'rithmetic.
Now I can understand the need to not "mass incarcerate" part of our citizenry but who is going to support all these people in an anarchic system. We no longer value education and intact families.

Something has to give!

The counterculture rebellion began in the age of Woodstock and has continued more or less ever since.

 

[Colt]

He likely did not get that list of grievances from liberal media.

Which would make sense, the Liberal media doesn't cover news, it explains the events of the day in such a way as to further the agenda of the (D) party. The Leftist state media ignores as much as it can.

 

[icehorse]

My advice is take some time off of conservative news media, take a walk outside, and breathe in the fresh (or fresher) air.

The examples in the OP could have been stronger, no doubt.

That said, humanity is facing MASSIVE, potentially society ending problems, and for the most part we're bickering over far less catastrophic ills. Climate change, environmental destruction, depletion of drinkable water, THESE are first order problems.

One central, universal cause of all of these first order problems is the fact that we've allowed ourselves to slip into living in oligarchy / kleptocracies. Defanging the oligarchs is a first order problem that 99.9999999% of us should all be aligned on.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Which would make sense, the Liberal media doesn't cover news, it explains the events of the day in such a way as to further the agenda of the (D) party. The Leftist state media ignores as much as it can.

You've just described Fox "News." You just need to replace the D with an R. Read their emails.