Eating Apes

[Valjean]

How come? Wouldn't an animals intellect mean varying degrees of suffering in the same conditions? Or do you think only physical suffering exists in non-human animals?

I was commenting on ickyness as a moral factor. One's comfort with a certain food source should not determine the morality of utilizing it.
Suffering -- physical or psychic -- is a different factor. I'm sure a flatworm experiences less anxiety or fear than a cow, and I'm pretty sure it would be easier to conceal a cow's eventual fate from it than a human. I also think most of our customary food animals are quite capable of both fear and anxiety, as well as pain.
These are factors to consider.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I was commenting on ickyness as a moral factor. One's comfort with a certain food source should not determine the morality of utilizing it.
Suffering -- physical or psychic -- is a different factor. I'm sure a flatworm experiences less anxiety or fear than a cow, and I'm pretty sure it would be easier to conceal a cow's eventual fate from it than a human. I also think most of our customary food animals are quite capable of both fear and anxiety, as well as pain.
These are factors to consider.

I agree with you. I might have misread, and thought that you were saying that intelligence shouldn't effect how you rate suffering, that because a cow can physically feel like a dolphin can, that their suffering is the same.

 

[Valjean]

Your grandmother with Alzheimer's, or a two year old, may not be any more intelligent than a pig, but their capacity for fear, pain or suffering entitles all three to equal moral consideration.

 

[SomeRandom]

Apes look too much like me.
Would you fry me up for a nosh?

Oh my yes! I think you'd go well with some brandy sauce, caramelised onions and some roast veges. Perhaps a nosh of finely aged wine to wash it all down.

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh my yes! I think you'd go well with some brandy sauce, caramelised onions and some roast veges. Perhaps a nosh of finely aged wine to wash it all down.

Try a nice chianti.
If'n ya plan to wash me first, donna forget behind me ears!

 

[metis]

In many parts of the world people eat apes.
Is eating apes the same as eating other animals, or should apes be regarded as special and therefore not be eaten?

Eating an ape is pretty much the same as eating a chicken with one main difference: the apes in general are endangered.

Therefore, I don't want to eat either.

 

[Shrew]

Apes look too much like me.
Would you fry me up for a nosh?

Not as the main dish, but I might consider you as dessert.

 

[jeager106]

Chill out, Jeager
Hominins are apes -- and nobody's making fun of you. I'm just trying to keep things light hearted in a thread threatening to become a serious discussion of moral philosophy and psychology.

O.K. I'm chilled out now and thansk for getting me back into
perspective.
It is, after all, only the internet.

 

[jeager106]

Eating an ape is pretty much the same as eating a chicken with one main difference: the apes in general are endangered.

Therefore, I don't want to eat either.

There's lots of chickens and I like chicken so I'll continue eating chicken
but that's just me and not direction or suggestion for anyone else.
Apes on the other hand.....................?????????????????? Nope!
And it has nothing to do with being endangered.
There are plenty of countries where eating dog is common. Horses
also but I'd pass just the same.
Cultural thing perhaps?
I don't want to eat Fido or Fluffy or Black Beauty.
It's rather difficult to become attached to a chicken as a house pet
I'd think. Cultural again perhaps?
We did have Charlie. A white poland china porker that was quite
smart and dad taught him to shake hands and sit up.
We shot 'em in the head and ate 'em.
The porker, not dad.
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Kids raised in the country that raise meat animals, garden for groceries,
hunt critters for food, trap critters for fur, catch fish for supper, tend not to be anthropomorphic.
When I was about 16 I had a city buddy. His dad, wanted me to take
him hunting as dad was a shooter but not a hunter.
I shot a rabbit and twisted it's head off to bleed it and the kid threw up.
Humph. ?????????? Beats me.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not as the main dish, but I might consider you as dessert.

I recommend lots'o maple syrup....to prevent the gamy aftertaste.

 

[Onyx]

Since nobody did it yet:

 

[SomeRandom]

Try a nice chianti.
If'n ya plan to wash me first, donna forget behind me ears!

Sounds appetising