PureX
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Not at all!To me if it did not happen then the whole thing is no more than a fabrication and lie. And I guess that is how you feel about it also.
Fiction is far better at revealing the truth than the facts will ever be. I am always puzzled by people who take your extreme position, as it's incredibly disrespectful to the people that created those stories and their understanding of the world and of God. You don't call Shakespeare's plays "a lie" do you? Or consider the Star Wars Trilogy pointless, worthless nonsense. Or label, "To Kill A Mockingbird" devoid of any truth or insight just because it's fiction. So why do you devalue biblical fiction so quickly and fully? Especially when so many people have discovered so many deep spiritual truths in reading those stories? And still do.
There is also the very real possibility that a lot of people are seeing the "evidence" to support what they want it to support, and ignoring the many other possible explanations. When it comes to religious belief, there is a LOT of that sort of thing going on in the world of archeology. And it tends to muddy up the waters so much that it becomes impossible to determine what anything really means.The interesting thing is that it looks like the remains of non slave Hebrews have been found at Goshen (where the story says Israel stayed while in Egypt) and at the right time (given the Biblical dating for the Exodus) And given that dating the conquest remains in Canaan agree with the story of the conquest in Joshua.
Of course there is the thing about the story being unbelievable because of the miracles, the usual naturalistic way of reading such stories.
Fortunately, for me, none of that even matters. The truth of the story does not rest on any archeological evidence, any more than the truth of any other story does. The truth is already in us. All the stories do is help us to recognize it and appreciate it. And convey it to others.
Of course it does. It's a story of faith in action. About faith persisted in. About slavery being both unjust and 'unnatural'. It's even about how some people will become so confused and frightened by freedom that they will run back to their prison cells and lock themselves in. It's an amazing story about the many aspects of slavery and freedom and faith and fear and ego and humility and patience and persistence and so on. And you would throw all that away just because it's a fictional story??? I think that's wildly irrational, and very sad. Because it's the fictional aspect of it that makes it so applicable to so many people. If it were just about the fact that God saved those people in that time and that place and that circumstance, then it doesn't mean much for the rest of us, does it. Because there aren't going to be any firey pillars or parting of the seas, for us.If it is not true does the story have any value and meaning apart from being an origins myth?
I feel sad for their horrible 'artlessness'.But that is the way many people believe and see it.
Sadly, they have completely missed the point and the value of the story. Like throwing the painting of a beautiful sunset away because it's "just a painting". But then, isn't that kind of what you're doing? I mean, you're looking at a painting of a beautiful sunset and insisting that it's a real sunset. And when someone points out that it's just a painting you refuse to accept it. You say, "if it's not a real sunset then it's just a LIE!". But it's not a lie. It's a representation of the truth. That in many ways helps us see the truth better than the real thing.To believe there is a possibility for a creator God to exist then people who say that they would believe if there was evidence, should really say that the OT and NT stories could possibly be true and not that they are unbelievable-------------thereby eliminating and denying the actual evidence.