einstein a jew?

[A Troubled Man]

A lot of brilliant thinkers have been Jews, simply because Judaism is a culture that values learning and encourages education, asking questions, and deep thinking.

And yet, it was the moving away from Judaism, it's beliefs, practices and rituals which allowed Einsteins thinking and theories to flourish. He thought of Judaism as childish.

And from the ninth to the fifteenth centuries CE, a disproportionate number of the Western World's scholars came from the Muslim countries of the Middle East and North Africa, at a time when Islamic culture was quite flexible in its thought, and encouraged many kinds of deep thinking and asking of questions.

Yet, when we delve into what exactly what was produced in that time from the Muslim culture were theories and ideas taken in conquest of other cultures and other men.

 

[George-ananda]

The Jewish people hold education in very high regard. This explains much of their success. Einstein had a big brain. It doesn't really matter if it was a big Jewish brain.

You are avoiding the question the OP was wondering about. Is there a genetic reason why jews have been disproportionately succesful in intellectual areas. My answer was 'Yes' genetics is part of the reason. In fact I think the predominant reason. Good genetics make it more likely you will provide a good intellectual environment for your group's next generation.

This is a question politically correct people try to avoid because admitting group's genetic differences is opening up an emotionaly challenging can of worms.

However, I'd rather be correct than politically correct.

 

[Caladan]

And yet, it was the moving away from Judaism, it's beliefs, practices and rituals which allowed Einsteins thinking and theories to flourish. He thought of Judaism as childish.

Levite seems to discuss Jewish culture, not the Jewish religion.

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

A lot of brilliant thinkers have been Jews, simply because Judaism is a culture that values learning and encourages education, asking questions, and deep thinking.

By the same token, many great thinkers have also been produced by India, Japan, and China-- all cultures that value learning and education. And from the ninth to the fifteenth centuries CE, a disproportionate number of the Western World's scholars came from the Muslim countries of the Middle East and North Africa, at a time when Islamic culture was quite flexible in its thought, and encouraged many kinds of deep thinking and asking of questions.

What is unremarkable is that certain cultures will produce many brilliant thinkers, but that it is so clear that when a culture truly values learning and education, and acts upon those values in productive ways, it will consistently produce superb intellects.

I think the statistics around Jews and the Nobel Prize is very interesting.

At least 185 Jews and people of half- or three-quarters-Jewish ancestry have been awarded the Nobel Prize,1 accounting for 22% of all individual recipients worldwide between 1901 and 2011, and constituting 36% of all US recipients2 during the same period.3 In the research fields of Chemistry, Economics, Physics, and Physiology/Medicine, the corresponding world and US percentages are 27% and 39%, respectively. Among women laureates in the four research fields, the Jewish percentages (world and US) are 38% and 50%, respectively. Of organizations awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, 25% were founded principally by Jews or by people of half-Jewish descent. (Jews currently make up approximately 0.2% of the world's population and 2% of the US population.)

Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

 

[A Troubled Man]

Levite seems to discuss Jewish culture, not the Jewish religion.

Exactly, which is why we see Einstein favoring the writings of Spinoza, a Jew who was excommunicated from the Jewish community.

 

[Caladan]

Exactly, which is why we see Einstein favoring the writings of Spinoza, a Jew who was excommunicated from the Jewish community.

The Jewish community of the 17th century. Any person who promoted Naturalism at the time got bad vibes. Hardly a surprise there.

 

[A Troubled Man]

The Jewish community of the 17th century. Any person who promoted Naturalism at the time got bad vibes. Hardly a surprise there.

I wouldn't see promoting Naturalism today within the Jewish community as resulting in anything less than bad vibes and excommunication.

 

[Caladan]

I wouldn't see promoting Naturalism today within the Jewish community as resulting in anything less than bad vibes and excommunication.

Then you are simply ignorant about Jewish culture.

 

[A Troubled Man]

then you are simply ignorant about jewish culture.

lol!

 

[Caladan]

lol!

It's rather sad really. I'm not sure why you want to resume to publicly expose your narrow mindedness, misconceptions, and general ignorance.

 

[Levite]

I wouldn't see promoting Naturalism today within the Jewish community as resulting in anything less than bad vibes and excommunication.

Are you kidding?

Have you ever heard of Jewish Renewal? Reconstructionist theology? Elements of Naturalism are quite common today, outside of the Haredi (ultra-Orthodox) world.

You really ought to acquire some education about what Judaism and Jewish culture are before trying to trash them.

In any case, Einstein was a secular Jew. There were things he valued about Jewish culture, and there were things he very much did not. From what I know of his upbringing, he didn't have to "move away" from Judaism to free his mind, because he was raised in a fairly secular household.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

There's Mark Zuckerberg...

And there is also Ron Jeremy

 

[Super Universe]

The bible says that the Jews are God's "chosen" people. Mostly this was written by Jewish writers to give their people a sense of superiority over others but it has some truth to it.

Jew's have an intelligence gene. It was not given to them specifically from God, they just happened to be the people who received it from the human ancestral genetic pool and since Jew's have interbred almost entirely with other Jew's this gene spread among them and stayed within their kind.

 

[A Troubled Man]

It's rather sad really. I'm not sure why you want to resume to publicly expose your narrow mindedness, misconceptions, and general ignorance.

LOL! Feel better?

 

[Caladan]

LOL! Feel better?

Your absence of original material and lack of ability to engage in a discussion as an adult is noted.

 

[A Troubled Man]

Are you kidding?

Have you ever heard of Jewish Renewal?

Is this correct from wiki?

"The term Jewish Renewal describes "a set of practices within Judaism that attempt to reinvigorate what it views as a moribund and uninspiring Judaism with mystical, Hasidic, musical and meditative practices drawn from a variety of traditional and untraditional, Jewish and other, sources. "

You really ought to acquire some education about what Judaism and Jewish culture are before trying to trash them.

I looked up Jewish Renewal and found nothing there that would support your claims.

In any case, Einstein was a secular Jew. There were things he valued about Jewish culture, and there were things he very much did not. From what I know of his upbringing, he didn't have to "move away" from Judaism to free his mind, because he was raised in a fairly secular household.

Can I use your own words about acquiring some education?

 

[A Troubled Man]

Your absence of original material and lack of ability to engage in a discussion as an adult is noted.

You didn't have a discussion in which to engage. See here...

Then you are simply ignorant about Jewish culture

 

[Caladan]

You didn't have a discussion in which to engage. See here...

It's hard to have a discussion with someone who's sum vocabulary is 'LOL'.

 

[A Troubled Man]

It's hard to have a discussion with someone who's sum vocabulary is 'LOL'.

That's rich. Notice that it was in response to the quote I just pasted above?

You're staff here? Wow.

 

[sumaidi]

i think its better to back to the discussion..
amazing, i have read info about nobel recievers. i believe that god create jewish in higher brain quality than others.