El Mexico.....the Fifty First State

[sayak83]

I thought that Canada was supposed to be the 51st state. And that would go a long way toward Making America White Again. The OP's idea seems to go against Trump's ideals.

Can someone explain why descendants and of Spanish colonists are considered non-white? I am sure VisiGoths, Austrogoths were also Germanic tribes.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Can someone explain why descendants and of Spanish colonists are considered non-white? I am sure VisiGoths, Austrogoths were also Germanic tribes.

It comes from only a slightly racist idea that the least bit of non-"white" blood means that one is no longer white. Perfectly understandable if you are a pure white person. By the way, if you have those beliefs then don't send your DNA into any of those sites that analyze it for you. You may be in for a rude awakening

 

[godnotgod]

so .....we loan them the money

they default

we claim the property

sounds American to me

Actually, as I recall, we DID lend them the money under the Clintion administration, and Mexico paid back every cent.

What sounds 'American' to you is pure thievery and treachery. You seem to like that. Most don't. But if you want trouble you will never be able to get a handle on, go ahead and claim the property. What you call 'America' will be killed off from the inside out. In fact, that is exactly what is going on right now, right under your very own rose-colored glasses.

 

[godnotgod]

Can someone explain why descendants and of Spanish colonists are considered non-white? I am sure VisiGoths, Austrogoths were also Germanic tribes.

Such descendants are of mixed blood and culture, European and Indio. The idea of 'non-white' may have to do with the fact that the Mexicano physically rid their country of Spanish and French rule.

 

[godnotgod]

no more a slave to the system than I am

You speak the language; he does not. You have an American education; he does not; you have means; he does not. He is a Mexican, subject to racist and economic exploitation by the unscrupulous. People like you will do whatever you can to 'keep him in his place', so he won't pose a threat to you economically, and whom you can continue to exploit. Some will come to his aid with programs like 'Affirmative Action', which people like you will strike down as being 'race based'. If you construct Trump's Wall, you will no longer have a base to exploit, so making Mexico a state, will ensure that your exploitation can continue. But it goes much farther than that: you want to take everything away from him and laugh in his face, like America did to the the Alaskan Indian and the Hawaiian natives.

 

[sayak83]

Such descendants are of mixed blood and culture, European and Indio. The idea of 'non-white' may have to do with the fact that the Mexicano physically rid their country of Spanish and French rule.

So did the Americans, from British rule.
There was no mixing among Amerindians and colonists here?

 

[godnotgod]

So did the Americans, from British rule.
There was no mixing among Amerindians and colonists here?

Of course there was. Most descendants identify, however, with being 'white American', while some recognize their Indian blood and heritage. Shame of conquest plays a large part in what they identify with. This is the case in New Mexico, where Mexican Americans proudly identify themselves as being Spanish, and completely suppress their Indian roots. In the case of the Mexican, who overthrew Spanish and French colonial rule, they proudly identify with being 'Mexicano' as a distinction to being 'Anglo' in spite of the fact that Spanish blood flows in their veins. But many Mexicanos hide their Indio heritage in shame. They are a conquered people. They even discriminate against the non-Mexican native Indios, thinking themselves racially 'superior'.

 

[sayak83]

Of course there was. Most descendants identify, however, with being 'white American', while some recognize their Indian blood and heritage. Shame of conquest plays a large part in what they identify with. This is the case in New Mexico, where Mexican Americans proudly identify themselves as being Spanish, and completely suppress their Indian roots. In the case of the Mexican, who overthrew Spanish and French colonial rule, they proudly identify with being 'Mexicano' as a distinction to being 'Anglo' in spite of the fact that Spanish blood flows in their veins. But many Mexicanos hide their Indio heritage in shame. They are a conquered people. They even discriminate against the non-Mexican native Indios, thinking themselves racially 'superior'.

So basically they are white folks, objectively speaking. If we look at their genetic ancestry, most of it will be from Europe while a part native American.

 

[godnotgod]

So basically they are white folks, objectively speaking. If we look at their genetic ancestry, most of it will be from Europe while a part native American.

Don't know, but the dominant race in America in terms of sheer numbers when the white man arrived were the Indians, millions of whom were systematically wiped out via genocide and other factors such as whites having an alcohol tolerant gene, an immunity to certain diseases, and the driving force for conquest known as 'Manifest Destiny'. Eventually, the scales were tipped in favor of the white race.

 

[Thief]

People like you

you make waaaaaay to many assumptions about me

my mother is full blooded Spanish

and I am all in favor of treating my southern neighbor as myself

in the American way

on any soil

 

[godnotgod]

you make waaaaaay to many assumptions about me

my mother is full blooded Spanish

and I am all in favor of treating my southern neighbor as myself

in the American way

on any soil

You won't be doing them any favor. Leave your southern neighbor alone and clean up your own mess at home.

The American Way? You mean like genocide and Manifest Destiny and Americans lost in the drug culture and all the rest of 'American Life'? Its' a mess, and Mexico don't need more of the mess they already have.

 

[Thief]

You won't be doing them any favor. Leave your southern neighbor alone and clean up your own mess.

in this thread is the answer for the mess

 

[Thief]

and my southern neighbor will not leave America alone

the problem needs to be dealt with

we can live as one
or build a very high wall

 

[tytlyf]

and my southern neighbor will not leave America alone

the problem needs to be dealt with

we can live as one
or build a very high wall

You need a wall on the northern border as well. Otherwise our borders won't be secure.

 

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