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Election score jump

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I remember seeing the scores jump in favor of biden. One time there were two different scores on two seperate sites (maybe one didn't update, I don't know). Anyhow, trying to set away from confirmation biases and your hate for trump, has anyone else including the few I know actually see the score change?

I'm not political so I just thought it was weird. But I'm sure thousands of democrats would not have seen it?

I don't trust our government that much to take everything they feed to us on a spoon.

There's no political party pretext to the question.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I remember seeing the scores jump in favor of biden. One time there were two different scores on two seperate sites (maybe one didn't update, I don't know). Anyhow, trying to set away from confirmation biases and your hate for trump, has anyone else including the few I know actually see the score change?

I'm not political so I just thought it was weird. But I'm sure thousands of democrats would not have seen it?

I don't trust our government that much to take everything they feed to us on a spoon.

There's no political party pretext to the question.
What score are you talking about?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I was trying to find an example of it but it was all hate-trump sites.

You know how they have bar graphs on the individual sites whether at the top or in its own field (lbw) that shows the vote scores by the min? (Or hour?)

For example, washington post had vote updates.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
If by 'scores', you mean 'vote counts', then why the 'jumps' you noticed were almost certain to happen was explained weeks or even months before election night. It was all over some of the major media outlets, but most likely was not mentioned on some of the others.

I'm guessing the information is still available on the internet, and can be found by any person who has an honest interest in knowing why the vote counts were almost certain to favor Trump at the beginning, then Biden later on.

If you need any more help than that, someone will probably provide you with it.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I was trying to find an example of it but it was all hate-trump sites.

You know how they have bar graphs on the individual sites whether at the top or in its own field (lbw) that shows the vote scores by the min? (Or hour?)

For example, washington post had vote updates.
Are you talking about vote tallies during the count in individual states? Or the overall popular vote? Or electoral college votes?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
If by 'scores', you mean 'vote counts', then why the 'jumps' you noticed were almost certain to happen was explained weeks or even months before election night. It was all over some of the major media outlets, but most likely was not mentioned on some of the others.

I'm guessing the information is still available on the internet, and can be found by any person who has an honest interest in knowing why the vote counts favored Trump at the beginning, then Biden later on.

If you need any more help than that, someone will probably provide you with it.

I was turned off by all the hate-trump results on google. It felt like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

Now that I reread your comment, no. There was an actual real time jump in numbers rather than gradual shift in sides. It was a split second maybe and I wondered if anyone else caught it.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I was turned off by all the hate-trump results on google. It felt like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

Now that I reread your comment, no. There was an actual real time jump in numbers rather than gradual shift in sides. It was a split second maybe and I wondered if anyone else caught it.
In what state? On what day?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I remember seeing the scores jump in favor of biden. One time there were two different scores on two seperate sites (maybe one didn't update, I don't know). Anyhow, trying to set away from confirmation biases and your hate for trump, has anyone else including the few I know actually see the score change?

I'm not political so I just thought it was weird. But I'm sure thousands of democrats would not have seen it?

I don't trust our government that much to take everything they feed to us on a spoon.

There's no political party pretext to the question.
Polls showing how many points up or behind a politician is to win? (with in case the majority had Biden favored to win)
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Now that I reread your comment, no. There was an actual real time jump in numbers rather than gradual shift in sides. It was a split second maybe and I wondered if anyone else caught it.
That's likely been the case since we've had live election result coverage.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I was turned off by all the hate-trump results on google. It felt like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

No one finds it easy to get past their emotions in the pursuit of truth. No one. Also, no one ever comes near to a realistic understanding of an emotionally charged situation who is defeated by their emotions. Again, no one.

Now that I reread your comment, no. There was an actual real time jump in numbers rather than gradual shift in sides. It was a split second maybe and I wondered if anyone else caught it.

Check up on how votes are processed in batches, figure out what that means in terms of how the counts are reported. There should be lots of information on that, too.

I'm short on time this morning. Too many things I logged on for, too little time to get to them all. This could be my last post in this thread.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Polls showing how many points up or behind a politician is to win? (with in case the majority had Biden favored to win)
"Points"? Do you mean the popular vote? In what state? Or do you mean percentage points? In a state or overall? Or do you mean electoral college votes? Or projected electoral college votes? Or what?

A lot of these things are projections, updated as data comes in. It's not at all surprising that some of them may change suddenly, e.g. when a state is declared. Similarly, totals will change when counting of a batch of votes has been completed. Nobody keeps a running tally in real time, vote by vote. It's a batch process, in which batches of votes are counted and then signed off as correct. So there will be jumps. That's what you expect.

What is your concern?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
"Points"? Do you mean the popular vote? In what state? Or do you mean percentage points? In a state or overall? Or do you mean electoral college votes? Or projected electoral college votes? Or what?
I don't know. I'm not the one who asked.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
No one finds it easy to get past their emotions in the pursuit of truth. No one. Also, no one ever comes near to a realistic understanding of an emotionally charged situation who is defeated by their emotions. Again, no one.



Check up on how votes are processed in batches, figure out what that means in terms of how the counts are reported. There should be lots of information on that, too.

I'm short on time this morning. Too many things I logged on for, too little time to get to them all. This could be my last post in this thread.

No. I was wondering about the split second score change not the nature of the scores etc.

I was told by a republican as well but I think her views confirmed that the jump meant the election was rigged.

It's kind of like when you see the minute change for a sec on a digital clock. I don't know.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Electoral votes

Updates: 2020 Election Results

I can't remember the exact site but the display looked like this.
OK. Assuming you are talking about the presidential election, rather than the Congressional ones, that display is showing electoral college votes. Agreed?

All the electoral college votes that each state has in its gift are given to the candidate that wins the popular vote in that state (with, I think, two exceptions). So it is expected that the tally will jump discontinuously when the results for a state are declared.

Is that what you saw? If so it is what you expect. It's how the US electoral college system works. Or do you mean something else?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I remember seeing the scores jump in favor of biden. One time there were two different scores on two seperate sites (maybe one didn't update, I don't know). Anyhow, trying to set away from confirmation biases and your hate for trump, has anyone else including the few I know actually see the score change?

I'm not political so I just thought it was weird. But I'm sure thousands of democrats would not have seen it?

I don't trust our government that much to take everything they feed to us on a spoon.

There's no political party pretext to the question.
Typically, in-person ballots get reported before mail-in ballots are reported. It's sometimes also the case that ballots cast on election day get counted before ballots cast at advance polls.

In past elections, many Republican-controlled areas have seen voter suppression at in-person polls in heavily Democrat areas: e.g. understaffed polling places, leading to very long lines for voters.

This election, there was a concerted attempt by many Democrats to do an end run around these suppression tactics by voting by mail or voting in advance polls. Because of this, the early results in many areas skewed Republican until all the votes were counted.

Is that what you're describing?
 
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