I separate people who are taken in by gaslighting in particular and lying in general and those who actively promote lies. The former are tragic, the latter are or should be criminal.
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Elective Disease
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I separate people who are taken in by gaslighting in particular and lying in general and those who actively promote lies. The former are tragic, the latter are or should be criminal.
averageJOE
zombie
Are you asking if there should be a litmus test given to determine if someone is worthy of medical care?
Oh! look I'm not always the only one.
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
I'm not an antivaxer....but now I see we are divided along right and left, democrat and republican, vaccinated and unvaccinated......hmmm.... any thing else we can think of to divide the country further so we get nothing done.....If the bombed pearl harbor today....we'd lose
oh, and as I said in another discussion along these lines, there are a few folks that per their doctors advice, should not get the vaccine....most of those are already high risk with heart issues
And sadly, the deaths of this 'collateral damage' aren't included in Covid stats.
In times of overwhelmed resources, prioritization is
inevitable. I favor the responsible over the irresponsible.
That would be hard to figure.
No doubt. But there is also no doubt that it's there. We had a news story here just the other day of a woman's cancer treatment being delayed, and then informing the family it was too late.
Many of the fanatics think that unjabbed people should basically be left to die in the street. They're crazy extremists. Makes me side-eye many of my fellow citizens. I would never support denying someone medical care or not having insurance cover their needs. That's just sociopathic. But us unjabbed people are supposed to be lacking in care for others.
When the unvaxed over-load the system, they'reMany of the fanatics think that unjabbed people should basically be left to die in the street. They're crazy extremists. Makes me side-eye many of my fellow citizens. I would never support denying someone medical care or not having insurance cover their needs. That's just sociopathic. But us unjabbed people are supposed to be lacking in care for others.
ensuring that someone will be denied. Why should
they deem that it be someone else?
The vaccines are free, painless, & low risk.
The SARS CoV-2 virus is dangerous, but its effects
are greatly limited by vaccination. To refuse this
seems the greater fanaticism, ie, an unreasonable
devotion to a cause.
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Who is being denied care because of unjabbed people??? Name one instance of this happening.
Honestly, I don't even feel like having some back and forth about this. It's just negativity and ****ting on other people who are just trying to make it through the day. I'm not into the divide and conquer crap. I'm not playing that game. At least I can say I still believe everyone has a right to healthcare. Even me. Even people I disagree with.
Individual cases aren't available to me.
Michigan’s overflowing hospitals offer COVID warning for US - The Boston Globe
Excerpted....
“Our emergency departments and our hospitals are functioning beyond full capacity,” Adnan Munkarah, Henry Ford’s chief clinical officer, said in an interview. “That means our beds are full and we have patients waiting in the emergency department for hours for beds to open.”
When some people behave irresponsibly...dangerously.Honestly, I don't even feel like having some back and forth about this. It's just negativity and ****ting on other people who are just trying to make it through the day. I'm not into the divide and conquer crap. I'm not playing that game. At least I can say I still believe everyone has a right to healthcare. Even me. Even people I disagree with.
They shouldn't expect preference in times of shortage,
leaving others to suffer as a result.
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So you can't come up with an example of it. Alright.
Okay, so leave AIDS patients, smokers, drug addicts, alcoholics, the obese, diabetics, extreme sports athletes, etc. to die in the streets. It's just hatefulness.
Not an individual.
Would you say that if they can't
be named, that there are none?
Who then should be moved to the back
of the line when hospitals overflow?
You triage by need, obviously.
Thankfully you are not, then. If you lack compassion or care for others, stay out of the healthcare industry. There's enough people working in it who have no business doing so. But thanks for letting us know what sort of person you really are.
I find this statement disturbing. Such a lack of empathy for anyone that is dying is appalling.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
I'll be frank, that's sick and twisted logic.
Let's not let the smoker be treated for cancer either?
Can you say "slippery slope"?
Doctors are there to treat whoever needs it.