Elon Musk vs Soros

[Stevicus]

Elon Musk accuses George Soros of wanting 'destruction of western civilization' a day before meeting Netanyahu over antisemitism on X

"I encourage you and urge you to find the balance," Israel's prime minister told Elon Musk about free speech vs hate speech. "It’s a tough one."

fortune.com

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/16/business/elon-musk-george-soros/index.html

I love this man. Elon Musk, I mean,
He's not only handsome, intelligent. But he also comprehends that some tycoons propagandize destructive ideologies.

Of course Elon Musk has always strived for good, beauty and justice.

As for the other man...well...I have never heard anything positive coming out of his mouth.

I see them both as businesspeople, and as such, it's expected their primary focus would be on money, profits, and their own personal enrichment. In the case of both Musk and Soros, both appear to enjoy the limelight.

As for what they apparently want - or whether they're destructive to society or western civilization - I would look more at the results and consequences of what they do, as opposed to what they say or claim to support. They should be judged solely by the results of what they do and the actions of the political factions they support. Their intentions and political objectives are indicated by the results of their actions and the policies they support.

So, in other words, if the West is showing a marked decline in multiple areas, then it's reasonable to conclude that the movers and shakers - those with the most power and influence in society - wanted and intended for this to occur. I don't know if this reflects personally on Soros, Musk, or anyone else in the upper crust of society, but the results speak for themselves.

 

[wellwisher]

Okay. Obama was a great speaker, brave to go against the norm and try to be the first African-American President, he seemed to be a man of integrity, he seemed to allow his wife her personal autonomy. If I recall, his credentials were pretty impressive, too.

Obama was half white and raised by his mother and his white extended family. His black father was absent, but he was called the first Black President. That is very shallow thinking, on behalf of the Left; see only surfaces. This may be why Soros goes over their head; he is a big donor, period.

Soros is known as "The Man Who Broke the Bank of England" as a result of his short sale of US$10 billion worth of pounds sterling, which made him a profit of $1 billion, during the 1992 Black Wednesday UK currency crisis.[18]

Soros began his notoriety as a robber baron, who was all about profit without regard to social consequences. He was a good fit for future Left wing robber barons; want-a-be's. Climate change is a robber baron move; chaos for profit. Destroy fossil fuel for quick green energy Wall Street profits.

 

[Estro Felino]

I see them both as businesspeople, and as such, it's expected their primary focus would be on money, profits, and their own personal enrichment. In the case of both Musk and Soros, both appear to enjoy the limelight.

Maybe you don't know that Soros was adopted by a Nazi family that basically used to seize Jewish people's property.
An interviewer asked him whether he feels sorry about that moment of his life...
He asked him whether it was difficult for him, and whether he had any feeling of guilt. He replied: not at all.
And he also says: I am there to make money. I cannot and do not look into the social consequences of what I do (referring to the disastrous consequence that his speculations had in Malaysian economy. A country which is already poor...so a bit of mercy was necessary).

Basically he said the most unchristian things I have ever heard from a public character.


What do you think of his declarations? I want to know your personal stance.

As for what they apparently want - or whether they're destructive to society or western civilization - I would look more at the results and consequences of what they do, as opposed to what they say or claim to support. They should be judged solely by the results of what they do and the actions of the political factions they support. Their intentions and political objectives are indicated by the results of their actions and the policies they support.

With all due respect...
Musk has never jeopardized entire economies through speculation.
Musk has made money in the fairest way possible. By producing goods and services.
That's what I call honest work. Christianly speaking.


So it really amazes me, a little bit, that you find these two...similar.

Also considering that whenever he speaks, Musk sounds a very good and clean person.

 

[Colt]

Or maybe it's shame that pushes some people not to support an individual like Soros, openly.

Yea, Soros is philanthropic, he raids currency markets then gives some away to Leftist initiatives!

 

[Estro Felino]

Yea, Soros is philanthropic, he raids currency markets then gives some away to Leftist initiatives!

Currency market?
You mean speculation?

 

[Colt]

Currency market?
You mean speculation?

92' Black Wednesday! Ask the Bank of England.

 

[Revoltingest]

Okay. Obama was a great speaker, brave to go against the norm and try to be the first African-American President, he seemed to be a man of integrity, he seemed to allow his wife her personal autonomy. If I recall, his credentials were pretty impressive, too.

Obama was a terrible speaker without his teleprompter.
Integrity? He & Holder sold pardons at the end of his 2nd term.
He promised to end the wars & GITMO, but kept them going.
During a government shut-down, he blocked off the highway
near Mount Rushmore...actually spending desperately needed
federal funds....to intentionally cause pain, inconvenience, &
outrage to innocent people. Because it was politically useful.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Obama was a terrible speaker without his teleprompter.
Integrity? He & Holder sold pardons at the end of his 2nd term.
He promised to end the wars & GITMO, but kept them going.
During a government shut-down, he blocked off the highway
near Mount Rushmore...actually spending desperately needed
federal funds....to intentionally cause pain, inconvenience, &
outrage to innocent people. Because it was politically useful.

I noticed you didn't correct @Estro Felino on Elon Musk, but tried to correct me on Obama. I'll try to remember this the next time you try to depict yourself as neither Republican or Democrat.

 

[Estro Felino]

I noticed you didn't correct @Estro Felino on Elon Musk, but tried to correct me on Obama. I'll try to remember this the next time you try to depict yourself as neither Republican or Democrat.

I am starting to think that Musk is a white heterosexual male who doesn't mind saying he loves women.
An unforgivable sin, in the US.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I am starting to think that Musk is a white heterosexual male who doesn't mind saying he loves women.
An unforgivable sin, in the US.

There are plenty of reasons not to like Musk, but my main one is him shutting down communications at important times in Ukraine via his "gift" he bragged about of giving them free communication (and also later charging for it).

 

[Estro Felino]

There are plenty of reasons not to like Musk, but my main one is him shutting down communications at important times in Ukraine via his "gift" he bragged about of giving them free communication (and also later charging for it).

It's a bargain.
He provides with a service, and in exchange, people are free to say whatever they like, without being censored.

What's the point of censoring?
To prevent the political opponent from saying the truth?

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

It's a bargain.
He provides with a service, and in exchange, people are free to say whatever they like, without being censored.

What's the point of censoring?
To prevent the political opponent from saying the truth?

That's not what I meant.

I was talking about communications for Ukraine soldiers to other Ukraine soldiers for war commands, and it being shut down at important times by Elon.

I wasn't talking about Twitter.

 

[F1fan]

Elon Musk accuses George Soros of wanting 'destruction of western civilization' a day before meeting Netanyahu over antisemitism on X

"I encourage you and urge you to find the balance," Israel's prime minister told Elon Musk about free speech vs hate speech. "It’s a tough one."

fortune.com

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/16/business/elon-musk-george-soros/index.html

I love this man. Elon Musk, I mean,
He's not only handsome, intelligent. But he also comprehends that some tycoons propagandize destructive ideologies.

Of course Elon Musk has always strived for good, beauty and justice.

As for the other man...well...I have never heard anything positive coming out of his mouth.

Musk is a disturbed person.

Soros is just a wealthy person who has a priority with advancing humanitarian efforts and supporting politcs that help people.

 

[Estro Felino]

Soros is just a wealthy person who has a priority with advancing humanitarian efforts and supporting politcs that help people.

Soros said: I cannot and do not into the social consequences of what I do.

It doesn't sound altruistic to me.

 

[Stevicus]

Maybe you don't know that Soros was adopted by a Nazi family that basically used to seize Jewish people's property.
An interviewer asked him whether he feels sorry about that moment of his life...
He asked him whether it was difficult for him, and whether he had any feeling of guilt. He replied: not at all.
And he also says: I am there to make money. I cannot and do not look into the social consequences of what I do (referring to the disastrous consequence that his speculations had in Malaysian economy. A country which is already poor...so a bit of mercy was necessary).

Basically he said the most unchristian things I have ever heard from a public character.


What do you think of his declarations? I want to know your personal stance.

What do I think of his declarations? "I am there to make money." Doesn't surprise or shock me at all.

That's what my grandfather would often say about any businessperson: "They're in business to make money."

Even Thomas Jefferson pointed out that it was "Money, nor morality...the commerce of civilized nations."

There have, of course, been more enlightened and progressive individuals who don't completely align with that kind of soulless mercenary thinking, but the basic concept seems to be an underlying principle in describing the ways and means by which the world operates.

With all due respect...
Musk has never jeopardized entire economies through speculation.
Musk has made money in the fairest way possible. By producing goods and services.
That's what I call honest work. Christianly speaking.


So it really amazes me, a little bit, that you find these two...similar.

Also considering that whenever he speaks, Musk sounds a very good and clean person.

I don't know that they're all that "similar" as individual human beings. They could be very different from each other. I don't know either of them personally. Musk is accusing Soros of wanting to destroy western civilization. In fact, over the past several years, one can see a lot of damning accusations going back and forth among the top level business, cultural, and political leaders in this country. There have been veiled insinuations of hidden agendas and secret plots to destroy civilization, destroy democracy, destroy "our way of life," and so on.

But if they're in business to make money - and that's their primary goal - then the real argument between them must be about money. All the other stuff they say about "destroying civilization" and so forth is just so much bunkum for the masses.

 

[Revoltingest]

I noticed you didn't correct @Estro Felino on Elon Musk....

Correcting @Estro Felino is a massive undertaking.
I can't attend to all of her questionable statements,
so I pick & choose. She appreciates that quell my
relentlessness, & give her a break now & then.

, but tried to correct me on Obama.

Tried?
There is no try.
There is only do, or not do.
I did.

I'll try to remember this the next time you try to depict yourself as neither Republican or Democrat.

I attack both parties & their minions/apratchiks.
Perhaps because you're new, you've not noticed my
excoriating Reagan, Clinton, Trump, Biden, etc.
Trump receives the most scorn, particularly for
his treasonous coup attempt.
As for Obama, I only scratched the surface of his
corruption. I recommend investigating the things
I posted, & more, eg, his persecution of whistle
blowers. He doesn't deserve sainthood.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Perhaps because you're new

I've been here 4 years, lol.

This is Snow White.

 

[Revoltingest]

I've been here 4 years, lol.

This is Snow White.

A moniker change?
I hate that!
We need an obvious history of poster monikers here.
My memory is only going to get worse.

 

[Estro Felino]

There are plenty of reasons not to like Musk, but my main one is him shutting down communications at important times in Ukraine via his "gift" he bragged about of giving them free communication (and also later charging for it).

You cannot deny that there is a war on the white, heterosexual male in the US.

If Clinton had had sex with a male intern at the WH...would he have been crucified as he was in 1998?

Not at all, nobody would have cared...because gay sex or gay fantasies are considered "locker room fun" by the Woke Ideology.
Only heterosexual adultery is considered a crime.

The woke ideology definitely dislikes heterosexual white men, a priori. Worse if Christians.

Example: Barack Obama's gay sex fantasy confession is revealed in letter to ex
this was applauded by the Woke Ideology.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

A moniker change?
I hate that!
We need an obvious history of poster monikers here.
My memory is only going to get worse.

There actually is a history under the new software. I may screenshot how to do it later, if I remember.