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Emotional/Social Pain

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
What fuels that? Perhaps an outlet to get adrenaline going? I'm sure in some cases its a sign of hurt, but I doubt it always is.
Biologically? Testosterone.

The higher a person's testosterone (regardless of sex), the more likely they are to percieve enjoyment in ****ing others off.

“We were able to show for the first time that increasing levels of testosterone within the normal physiological range can have a profound effect on brain circuits that are involved in threat-processing and human aggression.”

 
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Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Obviously, many do it... I see it in the debates all the time. Folks that come into the debates, and the debates only... they don't want to make friends, or community... they really enjoy bickering anonymously on the internet.

In my opinion, some people just like to be mean and bully others online. They may even feel empowered because they can hide anonymously behind their computer screen. I think they get a thrill out of treating people like trash online. They can practically say whatever they want until they are reprimanded by site moderators and/or banned for bullying and trolling. In all likelihood, they don't have the guts to say the same hateful things to someone face-to-face.
 

Ignatius A

Well-Known Member
In my opinion, some people just like to be mean and bully others online. They may even feel empowered because they can hide anonymously behind their computer screen. I think they get a thrill out of treating people like trash online. They can practically say whatever they want until they are reprimanded by site moderators and/or banned for bullying and trolling. In all likelihood, they don't have the guts to say the same hateful things to someone face-to-face.
Kind of like what you said here
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Why can't doctors treat the entire patient anymore without shuffling them off to "specialists" before they have some idea of what kind of specialist is needed?
Because the modern evidence-based doctors do not like to deal with complex problem that are not explained by their evidence. I knew a patient who could not get out of bed because of a medication and the specialist told him it was in his head, and he could die without the medication. He asks me for my medical opinion. I told him what he was experiencing was real and he had to decide if he wanted to live this way on the medication. He asked me what I would do and i told him i would stop the medication. I gave him something that was not as effective but later he told me he felt alive again. Of course, you can imagine what I would have felt if he had died. There are difficult decisions in life but what kind of life would it be if you could barely leave your bed every day just to live longer. It is a choice.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
"When people feel emotional pain, the same areas of the brain get activated as when people feel physical pain: the anterior insula and the anterior cingulate cortex."


"Although the brain does not process emotional pain and physical pain identically, research on neural pathways suggests there is substantial overlap between the experience of physical and social pain. The cascading events that occur and regions activated in our brains - and therefore our reactions to the acute pain - appear to be similar.."


Now, I would also extend this further and say that chronic pain is also felt similarly and not just acute pain. This seems like a common sense extension to me. And I think the first article actually touched on this.

So, why does it seem that societally we seem so dismissive of people's mental/emotional pains?

"It's not that bad.."

"Just wait, time heals.."

Etc.

We seem to think that, if we can't see it, it's not that bad. Even though we all feel these things through the same processes.
You know the phrase "I feel your pain" The mirror neurons intimately connect with the centers for empathy so we can actually feel someone's pain. Those who have suffered before are even more receptive. Ironically suffering strengthens empathy. I at first could not undestand why all of the Irish and Scottish songs were so sad. I mean the song Loch Lomond is about a man about to die with the only way back to the Loch is the low road by death. But what a beautiful song.
 

Ignatius A

Well-Known Member
I've been reading along for a bit, contributing here and there, and I admit, I'm confused...

You seem upset. Why? Honestly, I'm not sure what you're arguing against anymore, just that you're upset with... perhaps everyone on this thread? What's up?
You seem wrong. What I'm arguing I said in my first post on this thread. Id encourage you to read it and come back to share your thoughts with me. The problem is there are people here who for some reason just can't seem tell me their thoughts. I would love to hear your thoughts on the post I directed you to.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
You seem wrong. What I'm arguing I said in my first post on this thread. Id encourage you to read it and come back to share your thoughts with me. The problem is there are people here who for some reason just can't seem tell me their thoughts. I would love to hear your thoughts on the post I directed you to.
Do you mean this post?

Why? Because some people do use mental/emotional pains as an excuse for all kinds of things. There is no way to see it or measure it and no way to see what effect it has on people. Its not the same for everybody and different things cause different people different levels of mental/emotional pain.
Yeah, some people use emotional pain as an excuse. Some people use physical pain as an excuse. Some people bear through and succeed, others try to push through and fail miserably.

Kind of a mixed bag.

Do you think its okay to dismiss everybody's pain just because some people have abused such things?
 

Ignatius A

Well-Known Member
Do you mean this post?


Yeah, some people use emotional pain as an excuse. Some people use physical pain as an excuse. Some people bear through and succeed, others try to push through and fail miserably.

Kind of a mixed bag.

Do you think its okay to dismiss everybody's pain just because some people have abused such things?
No I don't but mental/emotional pain is not like physical pain. If I hit 100 people with a 2X4 they will all feel pain but thats not the case with mental emotional pain. Accusing people of hurting your feelings has become a weapon. That's not a good development in my opinion. I'm not saying we should hurt people's feelings but to create change we sometimes have to say things people don't like.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
No I don't but mental/emotional pain is not like physical pain. If I hit 100 people with a 2X4 they will all feel pain but thats not the case with mental emotional pain. Accusing people of hurting your feelings has become a weapon. That's not a good development in my opinion. I'm not saying we should hurt people's feelings but to create change we sometimes have to say things people don't like.
I don't know... there are some things I'd rather be beaten with a 2x4 than have to endure.

I guess hurting a person's feelings isn't where my mind first goes when imagining debilitating emotional pain. More like serious loss or trauma.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I don't know... there are some things I'd rather be beaten with a 2x4 than have to endure.

No kidding.

I guess hurting a person's feelings isn't where my mind first goes when imagining debilitating emotional pain. More like serious loss or trauma.

It is difficult for me because, as an empath and sensitive, I can feel other people's emotional pain. It can be overwhelming at times.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
No kidding.



It is difficult for me because, as an empath and sensitive, I can feel other people's emotional pain. It can be overwhelming at times.
Yeah, I can, too at times. For most, in a general sense. For those I'm close with, it can be as if its my own.
 
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