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End times from various sources

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
Please read. I think it's serious as many of these hold much truth of what's happening today, such as people becoming immoral, losing spirituality, children not listening to their parents, ect. I brought some sources that some might not know as many people know of the verses in Zoroastrianism, Taoism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, which can be seen. Notice the connections with all of them. I could name the other verses but this post would be long so I decided to post the ones that many don't know about.
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Celtic/Druidism:
166. Then after the battle was won and the slaughter had been cleared away, the Morrigan, the daughter of Ernmas, proceeded to announce the battle and the great victory which had occurred there to the royal heights of Ireland and to its sid-hosts, to its chief waters and to its rivermouths. And that is the reason Badb still relates great deeds. "Have you any news?" everyone asked her then.

Peace up to heaven. Heaven down to earth. Earth beneath heaven, Strength in each, A cup very full Full of honey; Mead in abundance. Summer in winter... Peace up to heaven...

167. She also prophesied the end of the time, foretelling every evil that would occur then, and every disease and every vengeance; and she chanted the following poem:

I shall not see a world which will be dear to me: summer without blossoms, cattle will be without milk, women without conscience, men without valor, Honor will be found short. Conquests without a king... Woods without mast. Seas without produce... False judgments of old men, false precedents of lawyers, every man a betrayer, every son a reaver. The child will go to the bed of their parent, the parent will go to the bed of their child. Each their siblings mate. They will not seek any mate outside their own house... An evil time, son will deceive his father, daughter will deceive mother...



Hinduism:



Rulers will become unreasonable: they will levy taxes unfairly.

Rulers will no longer see it as their duty to promote spirituality, or to protect their subjects: they will become a danger to the world.


People will start migrating, seeking countries where wheat and barley form the staple food source.

  • "At the end of Kali-yuga, when there exist no topics on the subject of God, even at the residences of so-called saints and respectable gentlemen of the three higher varnas [guna or temperament] and when nothing is known of the techniques of sacrifice, even by word, at that time the Lord will appear as the supreme chastiser." (Srimad-Bhagavatam (2.7)
    Avarice and wrath will be common. Humans will openly display animosity towards each other. Ignorance of dharma will occur. People will have thoughts of murder with no justification and will see nothing wrong in that.

    • Lust will be viewed as socially acceptable and sexual intercourse will be seen as the central requirement of life.


    • Sin will increase exponentially, whilst virtue will fade and cease to flourish.


    • People will take vows and break them soon after.


    • People will become addicted to intoxicating drinks and drugs.



    • Gurus will no longer be respected and their students will attempt to injure them. Their teachings will be insulted, and followers of Kama will wrest control of the mind from all human beings.



    • Brahmans will not be learned or honored, Kshatriyas will not be brave, Vaishyas will not be just in their dealings.
Heathenry:
Brothers will fight

and kill each other,
sisters' children
will defile kinship.
It is harsh in the world,
whoredom rife
—an axe age, a sword age
—shields are riven—
a wind age, a wolf age—
before the world goes headlong.
No man will have
mercy on another.

Buddhism: After my decease, first will occur the five disappearances. And what are the five disappearances? The disappearance of attainments [to Nirvana], the disappearance of the method [inability to practice wisdom, insight and the four purities of moral habit], the disappearance of learning [loss of men who follow the Dharma], the disappearance of the symbols [the outward forms, the robes and practices of Buddhism], the disappearance of the relics...”

These are some signs I think people overlook in other scriptures as a lot of religions seem to have a description of end times. Whether something bad happens or something is going to change, something BIG is going to happen.


 
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Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
I just think that they are more connected than people might think and how surprisingly true many of the verses are. True society past and present has it's virtues and vices but it's clear that many of the vices they listed is starting to become more common in the present.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Possibly. Or that news travels literally at the speed of light, and the population of the world is a gazillion % more than it was 2,500 years ago.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I just think that they are more connected than people might think and how surprisingly true many of the verses are. True society past and present has it's virtues and vices but it's clear that many of the vices they listed is starting to become more common in the present.
I don't think it's surprising at all given that they probably lived in a world where many of those things were happening. Much like most every human who ever lived on the planet at any given time in our existence.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
Possibly. Or that news travels literally at the speed of light, and the population of the world is a gazillion % more than it was 2,500 years ago.

I'm not sure what that has to do with what I'm saying but ok.

I'm just saying that now certain signs are becoming more clear. More people becoming promiscuous in affairs, especially flaunting it, like on adult sites, more people losing spirituality, i.e. becoming non religious, more people being addicted to drugs, like with the drug abuse going on, children disobeying their parents ect. It's not like it's never happened in history, it's just that it's clear that it's becoming more common which to most religions, is a bad sign.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm not sure what that has to do with what I'm saying but ok.

I'm just saying that now certain signs are becoming more clear. More people becoming promiscuous in affairs, especially flaunting it, like on adult sites, more people losing spirituality, i.e. becoming non religious, more people being addicted to drugs, like with the drug abuse going on, children disobeying their parents ect. It's not like it's never happened in history, it's just that it's clear that it's becoming more common which to most religions, is a bad sign.

I think it has everything to do with it... appearances and relativity. A thousand years ago populations were smaller and scattered. In a village of 100 people, how likely was it that everyone would be having sex with his neighbor, people robbing each other in the village square, and so on? One, two occurrences? I don't think these occurrences are any more frequent relative to population sizes and how fast news travels. It's a global electronic village today of what, 7 billion people. The occurrences are bound to be much more frequent and known about. I understand what you're saying, but I think it's all relative.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
I think it has everything to do with it... appearances and relativity. A thousand years ago populations were smaller and scattered. In a village of 100 people, how likely was it that everyone would be having sex with his neighbor, people robbing each other in the village square, and so on? One, two occurrences? I don't think these occurrences are any more frequent relative to population sizes and how fast news travels. It's a global electronic village today of what, 7 billion people. The occurrences are bound to be much more frequent and known about. I understand what you're saying, but I think it's all relative.

They are more frequent because there's more people, but how did we get 7 billion people in the first place? Lots and lots of sex. Of course they had cities back then to, they all weren't villages. The signs were starting back then, but now it's more and more clear.
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
Time was fulfilled before when Jesus said this... The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

So, I must ask, why would any believer/follower of Jesus/Yeshua think there is a future ending of time?
 

Unification

Well-Known Member
Please read. I think it's serious as many of these hold much truth of what's happening today, such as people becoming immoral, losing spirituality, children not listening to their parents, ect. I brought some sources that some might not know as many people know of the verses in Zoroastrianism, Taoism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, which can be seen. Notice the connections with all of them. I could name the other verses but this post would be long so I decided to post the ones that many don't know about.
Eschatology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Celtic/Druidism:
166. Then after the battle was won and the slaughter had been cleared away, the Morrigan, the daughter of Ernmas, proceeded to announce the battle and the great victory which had occurred there to the royal heights of Ireland and to its sid-hosts, to its chief waters and to its rivermouths. And that is the reason Badb still relates great deeds. "Have you any news?" everyone asked her then.

Peace up to heaven. Heaven down to earth. Earth beneath heaven, Strength in each, A cup very full Full of honey; Mead in abundance. Summer in winter... Peace up to heaven...

167. She also prophesied the end of the time, foretelling every evil that would occur then, and every disease and every vengeance; and she chanted the following poem:

I shall not see a world which will be dear to me: summer without blossoms, cattle will be without milk, women without conscience, men without valor, Honor will be found short. Conquests without a king... Woods without mast. Seas without produce... False judgments of old men, false precedents of lawyers, every man a betrayer, every son a reaver. The child will go to the bed of their parent, the parent will go to the bed of their child. Each their siblings mate. They will not seek any mate outside their own house... An evil time, son will deceive his father, daughter will deceive mother...



Hinduism:



Rulers will become unreasonable: they will levy taxes unfairly.

Rulers will no longer see it as their duty to promote spirituality, or to protect their subjects: they will become a danger to the world.


People will start migrating, seeking countries where wheat and barley form the staple food source.

  • "At the end of Kali-yuga, when there exist no topics on the subject of God, even at the residences of so-called saints and respectable gentlemen of the three higher varnas [guna or temperament] and when nothing is known of the techniques of sacrifice, even by word, at that time the Lord will appear as the supreme chastiser." (Srimad-Bhagavatam (2.7)
    Avarice and wrath will be common. Humans will openly display animosity towards each other. Ignorance of dharma will occur. People will have thoughts of murder with no justification and will see nothing wrong in that.

    • Lust will be viewed as socially acceptable and sexual intercourse will be seen as the central requirement of life.


    • Sin will increase exponentially, whilst virtue will fade and cease to flourish.


    • People will take vows and break them soon after.


    • People will become addicted to intoxicating drinks and drugs.


    • Gurus will no longer be respected and their students will attempt to injure them. Their teachings will be insulted, and followers of Kama will wrest control of the mind from all human beings.



    • Brahmans will not be learned or honored, Kshatriyas will not be brave, Vaishyas will not be just in their dealings.
Heathenry:
Brothers will fight

and kill each other,
sisters' children
will defile kinship.
It is harsh in the world,
whoredom rife
—an axe age, a sword age
—shields are riven—
a wind age, a wolf age—
before the world goes headlong.
No man will have
mercy on another.

Buddhism: After my decease, first will occur the five disappearances. And what are the five disappearances? The disappearance of attainments [to Nirvana], the disappearance of the method [inability to practice wisdom, insight and the four purities of moral habit], the disappearance of learning [loss of men who follow the Dharma], the disappearance of the symbols [the outward forms, the robes and practices of Buddhism], the disappearance of the relics...”

These are some signs I think people overlook in other scriptures as a lot of religions seem to have a description of end times. Whether something bad happens or something is going to change, something BIG is going to happen.


The ending of the world in religious texts is the destruction of the natural mind, ones own created subjective world within, and the coming of an objective higher spiritual conscious/mind. Divine marriage within. Heaven (spirit) and earth(body) colliding as one and becoming new.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
I'm not sure what that has to do with what I'm saying but ok.

I'm just saying that now certain signs are becoming more clear. More people becoming promiscuous in affairs, especially flaunting it, like on adult sites, more people losing spirituality, i.e. becoming non religious, more people being addicted to drugs, like with the drug abuse going on, children disobeying their parents ect. It's not like it's never happened in history, it's just that it's clear that it's becoming more common which to most religions, is a bad sign.

Telecommunication allows use to learn about events around the world as soon as such events are reported. We did not have such technology in the past. So the while one area of the world could be obvious to new in another this does not cause these events to vanish

People are hardly becoming more promiscuous considering the harems royalty of all flavors enjoyed, their mistress, illegitimate children, etc. Whore houses were also far more common in the past whereas most nations have made these places illegal as well as the jobs within it. What has change is what happened to children as a result of such acts and business. The stigma of being illegitimate is not as strong as it once was.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
They are more frequent because there's more people, but how did we get 7 billion people in the first place? Lots and lots of sex. Of course they had cities back then to, they all weren't villages. The signs were starting back then, but now it's more and more clear.

Nope advances in medical technology which increased our life expectancy and decreases morality rates. Breaking an arm in the past had a higher chance of being fatal due to complication. In the present the fatality risk in minimal. Population growth has been dropping in developed nations as medical advance helps prevent people and offspring from dying from basic injuries and illnesses. This is the break between developed and undeveloped nations. It is not the populations you think lack morals in developed nation increasing the global population but undeveloped nations and the religious.
 

Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
And Chicken Little cried "the sky is falling" and all the chooks where immediately in panic.
The earth has been around for some 4.5 billion years, humans have been here for only 500,000 years, statistically the hypothesis presented by these religious verses is purely supposition with ZERO proof. I suspect we will be here in another billion years. These "signs" come and go every year in every society. Those societies that adapt to change are successful but those that rely on wishful myths of the past and do not adjust generally fail eventually.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
The ending of the world in religious texts is the destruction of the natural mind, ones own created subjective world within, and the coming of an objective higher spiritual conscious/mind. Divine marriage within. Heaven (spirit) and earth(body) colliding as one and becoming new.
Interesting interpretation
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
And Chicken Little cried "the sky is falling" and all the chooks where immediately in panic.
The earth has been around for some 4.5 billion years, humans have been here for only 500,000 years, statistically the hypothesis presented by these religious verses is purely supposition with ZERO proof. I suspect we will be here in another billion years. These "signs" come and go every year in every society. Those societies that adapt to change are successful but those that rely on wishful myths of the past and do not adjust generally fail eventually.

There is always truth to legends. Otherwise, they wouldn't be "legends" in the first place. Something can come to pass, though not in the way people originally thought. What if I told you that there was someone in the past who had a sign of a "bird who could destroy a single city"? Now you're probably thinking of a plane that can drop a nuclear bomb and destroy a city. The person living in B.C. times would have no idea what a plane is but the person only says it's a bird because they have no idea what else to call it, since a plane sort of looks like a bird from far away.

My point is sometimes things could come to pass but it can be looked at a different a way. All of the creatures described could in fact actually be machines, aliens, ect. I know dreams can come true because I've experienced that as well as others. Can I prove it? Probably not, but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist or that it won't happen.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
End of Earth: Some 4 billion years from now. I do not think Homo sapiens sapiens will survive all that long. Yes, it is possible that when they see that the end is near, humans may behave very badly.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
End of Earth: Some 4 billion years from now. I do not think Homo sapiens sapiens will survive all that long.

I often wondered that why would the human race end because Earth ends. By 4 billion years, I believe we'd have enough time to build spaceships and travel the universe unless we blow up ourselves before that happens. Why do you think humans won't survive all that long?
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I do not think we are going interstellar except in fiction and films. Then there are space rocks and volcanoes.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure why. Our technology gets more and more advanced and billions of years would be more than enough time to develop it. People thought it'd be impossible to fly or go to outer space, but look at us now.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
The nearest earth-like planets in Tau Ceti are 11.9 light years away, i.e., 112.6 trillion kilometers or 70 trillion miles. You mean Star Ship Enterprise going where no one has gone before and establishing a brave new world. Or self-sufficient sister colonies on Moon or Mars. And in the meantime humans will evolve into beings that we would not recognize. Possible even if does not seem so today, if nature will not deal us in some catastrophic way.
 
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