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Enemies from within

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
"I think the bigger problem are the people from within....We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics....I think it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can't let that happen....The thing that's tougher to handle are these lunatics that we have inside, like Adam Schiff....The more difficult are, you know, the Pelosis, these people, they're so sick and they're so evil."

Even Republicans are reeling from this threat to use the military against Democrats.
 
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ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
For context, the source of the quote is a Fox News Sunday morning interview (funnily enough, he received absolutely zero pushback and Fox News are not running any stories on this statement that I can find).


Please, let's hear more about how Biden slurs his words and how Kamala has a Dad who studied Marx and why these things are so much more of a big deal than Trump stating that he wishes to turn the military on his own citizens.
 

Tomef

Well-Known Member
"I think the bigger problem are the people from within....We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics....I think it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can't let that happen....The thing that's tougher to handle are these lunatics that we have inside, like Adam Schiff....The more difficult are, you know, the Pelosis, these people, they're so sick and they're so evil."

Even Republicans are reeling from this threat to use the military against Democrats.
Some people are risk sensitive, with no tolerance for ambiguity, some people have a need for cognition. Trump sees the risk as anything or anyone that gets in the way of him winning, and puts this in terms that his followers will interpret as real-world threats to their way of life. People who have that tendency to perceive threat will respond to that, then create a narrative to explain why they think it is 'logical' later. People with a need for cognition will look at the actual claims and evaluate whether they have any basis in reality.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
"I think the bigger problem are the people from within....We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics....I think it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can't let that happen....The thing that's tougher to handle are these lunatics that we have inside, like Adam Schiff....The more difficult are, you know, the Pelosis, these people, they're so sick and they're so evil."

Even Republicans are reeling from this threat to use the military against Democrats.
Reminds me of the Stab-in-the-back myth - Wikipedia.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
"I think the bigger problem are the people from within....We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics....I think it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can't let that happen....The thing that's tougher to handle are these lunatics that we have inside, like Adam Schiff....The more difficult are, you know, the Pelosis, these people, they're so sick and they're so evil."

Even Republicans are reeling from this threat to use the military against Democrats.
What the heck is the "radical left?" I haven't seen any radical leftists since the '60s.
The Democratic Party certainly isn't leftist. Both parties have moved to the Right in the past few decades. Yesterday's Republicans were more leftist than Bernie Sanders is today.
This "radical left" rhetoric is just ignorant, hyperbolic, propaganda.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
What the heck is the "radical left?" I haven't seen any radical leftists since the '60s.
The Democratic Party certainly isn't leftist. Both parties have moved to the Right in the past few decades. Yesterday's Republicans were more leftist than Bernie Sanders is today.
This "radical left" rhetoric is just ignorant, hyperbolic, propaganda.
It depends which scale you use. American politics are to the right of Europe, so if you are using European scale, then yes, the Democrats are not on the left. But here in the US, on our own spectrum, yes, the Dems are left and the Reps are right. The word "extreme" would refer to people that are at the far ends of the US spectrum in either direction.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
It depends which scale you use. American politics are to the right of Europe, so if you are using European scale, then yes, the Democrats are not on the left. But here in the US, on our own spectrum, yes, the Dems are left and the Reps are right. The word "extreme" would refer to people that are at the far ends of the US spectrum in either direction.
There is only one spectrum. But just as there are differences in the ability to see the electromagnetic spectrum, there is one to see the political spectrum. It is called the Overton window. The US Overton window is like people who can't see blue or green.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
For context, the source of the quote is a Fox News Sunday morning interview (funnily enough, he received absolutely zero pushback and Fox News are not running any stories on this statement that I can find).


Please, let's hear more about how Biden slurs his words and how Kamala has a Dad who studied Marx and why these things are so much more of a big deal than Trump stating that he wishes to turn the military on his own citizens.
If modern Democrats had any sense of intelligence, they would realize their own oath of office addresses enemies both domestic and foreign.

These people are just fear-mongers and ought to be just ignored because there's a lot more important things to do didn't hear their constant b******* on stuff like this.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
If modern Democrats had any sense of intelligence, they would realize their own oath of office addresses enemies both domestic and foreign.

These people are just fear-mongers and ought to be just ignored because there's a lot more important things to do didn't hear their constant b******* on stuff like this.
The problem here is MAGA's definition of enemies, it appears to be basically anybody who doesn't think like them. The rest of us attempt to use definitions decided by us in the laws that we have passed, it has been the basis of our country since the beginning.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
If modern Democrats had any sense of intelligence, they would realize their own oath of office addresses enemies both domestic and foreign.
Domestic threats are like those who attacked the Capitol on January 6, 2021. It's extremist militias. It's anyone who is a genuine threat to life, liberties, and governing. It's not speach, which is the only threat democrats pose against Trump and MAGAs.
These people are just fear-mongers and ought to be just ignored because there's a lot more important things to do didn't hear their constant b******* on stuff like this.
Oh the irony. We can barely wait until Trump and MAGAs are gone as a dominating force in conservative politics so they will hopefully return to being a stable and ethical politcal party that helps resolves problems the USA faces. That the "enemies within" is even an issue today is because Trump is mentally declining and afraid of losing, which them means he will face legal jeapardy. Has he fooled you into believing democrats are the enemy within? How many in your tribe of MAGAs will become violent is Trump loses? Who has the track record of violence against police, democracy, and the government: MAGAs.

Look inward if you want to see where the threat to America is brewing. Can you control it?
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
If modern Democrats had any sense of intelligence, they would realize their own oath of office addresses enemies both domestic and foreign.

These people are just fear-mongers and ought to be just ignored because there's a lot more important things to do didn't hear their constant b******* on stuff like this.
Domestic enemies would those who subvert the Constitution, no?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It depends which scale you use. American politics are to the right of Europe, so if you are using European scale, then yes, the Democrats are not on the left. But here in the US, on our own spectrum, yes, the Dems are left and the Reps are right. The word "extreme" would refer to people that are at the far ends of the US spectrum in either direction.
European? No, I'm using an American, post WWII scale, that could easily be extended back through FDR's New Deal period.

The '50s through the '70s were a mostly liberal period of growth, prosperity, and social advancement. It wasn't till the '80s, with the advent of Reagan and neoliberalism that the slide to the Right began to gain serious momentum.
The Right wing Republicans of the past, like Nixon or Reagan, would be called radical, left-wing socialists by today's Republicans.
 
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The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Some people are risk sensitive, with no tolerance for ambiguity, some people have a need for cognition. Trump sees the risk as anything or anyone that gets in the way of him winning, and puts this in terms that his followers will interpret as real-world threats to their way of life. People who have that tendency to perceive threat will respond to that, then create a narrative to explain why they think it is 'logical' later. People with a need for cognition will look at the actual claims and evaluate whether they have any basis in reality.
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Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
If modern Democrats had any sense of intelligence, they would realize their own oath of office addresses enemies both domestic and foreign.

These people are just fear-mongers and ought to be just ignored because there's a lot more important things to do didn't hear their constant b******* on stuff like this.

There is nothing in the oath of office that suggests a president ought to use his office or the military to punish political adversaries. That is literally what Trump is proposing to do. If you don't realize that, then you haven't been paying attention to your own candidate for office.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
There is nothing in the oath of office that suggests a president ought to use his office or the military to punish political adversaries. That is literally what Trump is proposing to do. If you don't realize that, then you haven't been paying attention to your own candidate for office.
Strange givin how much lawfare the Democrats had used in attempts to remove amd silence their political opponents.
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Strange givin how much lawfare the Democrats had used in attempts to remove amd silence their political opponents.

Are you talking about the criminal lawsuits filed against Donald Trump, one of which ended up with a 34-count felony conviction? What is really strange is that most of the evidence in the criminal cases comes from sworn testimony by Republicans who worked both for and with him in the past. Almost none of the testimony is from Democrats. But you probably weren't aware of that, were you?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Give us examples of this happening, and how those being charged did not deserve it.

Also explain how it is political, and not legal.

Do you think Menendez shouldn't have been charged and convicted?
Jesus Christ you don't follow anything do you?

Or that you're just playing the tired old, "Gee I'm so dumb" game again like usual.

So I'm just going to just let you wallow in your supposed ignorance on what has been reported in the media for years now about the use of lawfare by Democrats.
 
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