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Entanglement

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Could Love, empathy, be somewhat like entanglement. The everlasting, or eternal, kingdom?


How Quantum Entanglement Works (Infographic)
No. Particle physics is probably the least relevant field to just about everything. It's highly specialized, highly reductive. It's highly relevant to modern technology for sure but beyond that not at all. Even, The golden calf TOE is seen as not Germain anymore by most who work daily in that field. It is interesting in religious/science crossover examples that the default tends towards astronomy, theories on cosmology, particle physics, but almost never the life and environmental sciences, the immediate world around us..thats curious to me.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
No. Particle physics is probably the least relevant field to just about everything. It's highly specialized, highly reductive. It's highly relevant to modern technology for sure but beyond that not at all. Even, The golden calf TOE is seen as not Germain anymore by most who work daily in that field. It is interesting in religious/science crossover examples that the default tends towards astronomy, theories on cosmology, particle physics, but almost never the life and environmental sciences, the immediate world around us..thats curious to me.

i use it in relation to consciousness; which is what the word Spirit means in hebrew, or ruach.


 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Don't have sex with someone you don't want to become.


i've read of Lamas that wouldn't allow anyone but their closest protege's to touch them. the protege's act as a buffer between the lama and others, besides the protege.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
i use it in relation to consciousness; which is what the word Spirit means in hebrew, or ruach.


Yes I understand that. I also think particle physics is actually literally irrelevant beyond making an iphone. I think we have given it way way to much meaning it's actually just boys with toys, squirting water out a hose and measuring the patterns is all it really is. It has no real meaning beyond reductive application to technological development. I listen to various conversations on spirit or consciousness rarely if ever does it start with the immediate breathing world around us because we no longer exist surrounded by A large mysterious nature, rather in modernity we exist in a that which surrounds a tiny little nature we believe we understand and control. I don't actually see any clear evidence that's true or valid.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
i've read of Lamas that wouldn't allow anyone but their closest protege's to touch them. the protege's act as a buffer between the lama and others, besides the protege.
Yes.
Extreme example of course but the same principle.
During sexual intercourse the fluids that are exchanged are full of DNA.
This means that every sexual partner is now part of the other.
Add entanglement to this and you now have the influence of every sexual partner that we have ever had until we die and perhaps beyond that.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Yes.
Extreme example of course but the same principle.
During sexual intercourse the fluids that are exchanged are full of DNA.
This means that every sexual partner is now part of the other.
Add entanglement to this and you now have the influence of every sexual partner that we have ever had until we die and perhaps beyond that.

i lean more towards the idea of mind, consciousness, connecting. sex is a strong physical and emotional release but Love lasts much, much longer once it's established.


"friendship is two bodies being of one mind." mencius
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Yes I understand that. I also think particle physics is actually literally irrelevant beyond making an iphone. I think we have given it way way to much meaning it's actually just boys with toys, squirting water out a hose and measuring the patterns is all it really is. It has no real meaning beyond reductive application to technological development. I listen to various conversations on spirit or consciousness rarely if ever does it start with the immediate breathing world around us because we no longer exist surrounded by A large mysterious nature, rather in modernity we exist in a that which surrounds a tiny little nature we believe we understand and control. I don't actually see any clear evidence that's true or valid.


https://phys.org/news/2011-03-quantum-no-hiding-theorem-experimentally.html
 

allfoak

Alchemist
i lean more towards the idea of mind, consciousness, connecting. sex is a strong physical and emotional release but Love lasts much, much longer once it's established.


"friendship is two bodies being of one mind." mencius
Move the body, move the mind.
Love is not something that we have a grasp of as mortals.
It is like saying we can know God
We can only be known by God.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
That's stating the obvious obsevationally at least from just a straight eyeball nature observation and really is just very very ancient animism. The literal dissapear idea started in modern european universities in the religious accedemic philosophy department (theology) and it was called ex-nihilo. That didn't even exist at the time of the new testament. They call what they measure "information" but it's actually energy that generates the data or information. So the experiment just shows what used to be understood thousands of years ago. Symbiosis and metamorphosis are very interesting topics!!!.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
That's stating the obvious obsevationally at least from just a straight eyeball nature observation and really is just very very ancient animism. The literal dissapear idea started in modern european universities in the religious accedemic philosophy department (theology) and it was called ex-nihilo. That didn't even exist at the time of the new testament. They call what they measure "information" but it's actually energy that generates the data or information. So the experiment just shows what used to be understood thousands of years ago. Symbiosis and metamorphosis are very interesting topics!!!.

panpsychism, hylozoism, panentheism
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
panpsychism, hylozoism, panentheism
Exactly and this is exactly how we understood the world thousands upon thousands of years before even civilization. The "spirit world" was literally nature itself. Ancient Greek pantheism stories were a modern literary invention to that which was much much much older. The kingdom of God is infact very very close!! Jesus wasn't talking about something new, he was understanding a that which was very very old and forgotten. All metaphysics tell of that and talk about that.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
panpsychism, hylozoism, panentheism
Exactly and this is exactly how we understood the world thousands upon thousands of years before even civilization. The "spirit world" was literally nature itself. Ancient Greek pantheism stories were a modern literary invention to that which was much much much older. The kingdom of God is infact very very close!! Jesus wasn't talking about something new, he was understanding a that which was very very old and forgotten. All metaphysics tell of that and talk about that.

I want to add one does not need scientific instruments or discoveries to know this. One only needs deep immersion (baptized) into nature isolated from civilization and an accurate sense of nature guiding to discover it(born again) to discover the symbiotic quality (eucharist) of nature. Thoreau or better John Muirs writings on his "mountainanity" are reflective of this panpsychism. Which i suppose i now need to change my avatar to PAN!!!! The God of the hills, music poetry, theater critics, and Shepards who had a weakness for beautiful wood nymphs. Magicals!!
 
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Exactly and this is exactly how we understood the world thousands upon thousands of years before even civilization. The "spirit world" was literally nature itself. Ancient Greek pantheism stories were a modern literary invention to that which was much much much older. The kingdom of God is infact very very close!! Jesus wasn't talking about something new, he was understanding a that which was very very old and forgotten. All metaphysics tell of that and talk about that.

I want to add one does not need scientific instruments or discoveries to know this. One only needs deep immersion (baptized) into nature isolated from civilization and an accurate sense of nature guiding to discover it(born again) to discover the symbiotic quality (eucharist) of nature. Thoreau or better John Muirs writings on his "mountainanity" are reflective of this panpsychism. Which i suppose i now need to change my avatar to PAN!!!! The God of the hills, music poetry, theater critics, and Shepards who had a weakness for beautiful wood nymphs. Magicals!!


i have read it as metapsychologies, or a discourses on mind, or consciousness.

i've also read that holy books are like rorschach tests. but then most things are filtered through conditional minds; which comes from experience.
 
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David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
i have read it as metapsychologies, or a discourses on mind, or consciousness.

i've also read that holy books are like rorschach tests. but then most things are filtered through conditional minds; which comes from experience.
Yes I read the new testament as a rorschach test as well. It's written Intentionally as such to a degree anyway. JOHN 1:1,2 in regards to the logos is clearly aware of the various factors the reader is dependent upon in their interpretation of that verse. The logos has two completely opposite interpretations between heraclitus and phythagoras 600 years before Christianity. Our modern religious/secular view is dominate Pythagoras. Curiously early Christians understood heraclitus to be Christian. Pythagoras thought of the logos as mind, while heraclitus stated "the logos is common but everyone seems to have their own understanding". He also thought of Pythagoras as. Clever idiot, and That homer should be beaten!!!. Love heraclitus!!! He moved the logos out into the landscape thus it determines his mind. Pythagoras moved the logos into his mind and thus it determines his mind and the landscape.. That's circular infinite recursion this is always always false. Nietzche fell prey to this phenomena and for some like nietzche madness surely follows. They forget to breathe. I have no idea why madness isn't more common except that genetics plays a role in it. Apparently some are carriers genetically immune to it!!!
 
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idav

Being
Premium Member
Could Love, empathy, be somewhat like entanglement. The everlasting, or eternal, kingdom?


How Quantum Entanglement Works (Infographic)
It would be string-theory which says the entanglement that would have inevitably existed since the beginning, still exists.
According to string theory, everything in the universe is made up of tiny vibrating strings. These strings are identical. The reason that one manifests as a heavy particle, like a proton, and another as a particle without mass, like light, is that they vibrate at different frequencies.
String Theory and Theory of Entanglement | Quantum Energy
Love is the realization of the grand connection and the ramifications. Individuality and ego being the opposite, by thinking we are alone and all that matters.
 
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