Eternal Life and the power of the spirit

[Im42nut2]

I have a story to tell. It's the story about eternal life. It's the story of how we will experience the transitioning into the spirit, what type of awareness we'll have after entering that state, and how & why it is not only possible, but that it is the ultimate hopeful destiny of all physical lifeforms.

By some translated versions of biblical prophesy, the spiritual transitioning event which christians call 'the rapture' will occur in the near future. And I agree. But even though I'll make reference to some biblical things, this story of life has nothing to do with religion. Arguably theology, but definitely not religion.

I'm submitting this in a religious forum because anyone searching for the truth of life would probably check out this arena of cites. I realize that most religious forum frequenters are here only to bolster or argue their own beliefs. If you are one of these, then it would be a waste of your time to try to understand what I have to relate right now...but I'm sure you will learn it in due time.

You have to have an open mind to be able to absorb this information because I'm going to paint a different picture of how this life works than you probably have ever heard. I had never heard of what I'm about to tell you before my quest began. And I would never have started my own quest for the truth of life had I not 'stumbled' into the spirit one evening.

My spiritual experience lasted about five hours. The enormity of the spiritual state and the realization of what the future holds for us still send chills of excitement through my body (it happened Jan 21, 1981). My summation of this story of life we're living was derived from the knowledge/experience of others which did not deny the spiritual/physical form I lived.

There are four main aspects that I experienced in the spiritual state:
1. Total, 100% release/ total relaxation
2. Total, 100% POWER...no resistance in the manipulation of physical objects
3. 100% pure awareness
4. In perfect synchronization with the moment of time

This is not a fairytale. It sounds like magic. It is. But it's probably only part of what the spirit (my spirit, your spirit, everyone's spirit) is capable. It's the state, I believe, that Jesus of the christian bible went into to be able to perform the miracles written of him.

First I'll explain what it 'feels' like to both enter and be in the spiritual state; second, how we are residing within the physical body; third, how the physical is manifested; and finally, show how all the pieces fit together in harmony dictating a purpose to this great evolutionary process we call physical life.

It took about a second to go from my normal awareness to full spiritual awareness. In that transitional time I experienced the feeling/ knowledge of dying. I had released my body. It happened so quickly and completely that I had no fear of death even though I had full awareness of what was occuring. In fact, part of the transition was the release of the ability to maintain fears.

I expanded. I expanded into a volumetric shape and size of an egg about ten foot high and six feet in diameter (8 foot above the ground and 2 feet below). In the expansion, my body rose up with me (it had started to drop the moment of release). I was free of it, but it somehow stayed in perfect harmony with me. I felt myself occupying the full volume of the eggshape but only experienced control of the atomic motion of the elements of my body.

The feeling was what you might imagine if you break the physical down to the atomic structure scientists theorize all matter is made of (electrons flying around nuclei), atoms spinning at the speed of light. I did not feel that I was the quadrillions of spinning particles enveloped within my spirit, but that I was the space between all of the particles. It made my body feel dynamically fluid.

I was occupying and felt physical atomic movement throught the whole egg. In that, I was not only feeling the atomic 'buzz' of the molecules through my body, but also of the atmosphere and all objects within my eggshaped spirit. It made me feel porous. Solid objects felt just as porous as the air. So porous, that as I reached to touch something I expected my hand to pass right through it...but of course it didn't. The laws of physics seemed to be still in force.

I was floating. Gravitational force was evident as I moved around, but it was not felt. I believe I was seeing from my physical eyes and hearing with my physical ears, because the sights and sounds of all that filled my awareness told me my world had not changed…just me.

The first aspect, 100% release/relaxation, is impossible to empathize with. When I say it is death, I mean exactly that. Total release. No one has understood what Jesus actually meant when he said 'Ye must be born again'. This is the rebirth he was talking about. A second birth. This time into the spirit.

If you imagine yourself floating totally limp in a pool of water, or maybe floating in the clouds, you still won't come anywhere near imagining the perfect peace that is experienced in the spirit.

The second aspect I found of spiritual life is POWER. ABSOLUTE POWER. The power I'm talking about is the power to move physical objects. Physical objects within the spirit are felt just as the body is felt...atomic motion. The spirit flows through them the same. I continuously felt all atomic motion, whether it was my body, the atmosphere, or objects, throughout my whole egg-shaped spirit. I believed I was flowing through all objects as I neared them. But as I later figured out, we are manifesting them totally within our own individual spirits as we move through this life.

Solid objects feel as porous as the atmosphere, and can be manipulated easier than blinking an eye. Running, jumping, manipulating objects, etc. take no energy. No physical energy. Zero. That's one of the magical attributes of the spirit, total relaxation and total power coexisting in the same state.

The third aspect I found of spiritual life is pure awareness. The change from normal physical awareness into pure awareness is like waking up from a deep sleep. I would say my awareness of the world became 100 times more acute than normal. It's as if I 'knew every leaf on every tree', continuously. I was totally aware of everything I sensed, whether by sight, sound, or touch.

The last major aspect I found of spiritual life is that I was continuously in syncronization with the moment of time. The totally released feeling combined with the atomic motion that comprised my whole spirit made me feel like I was being wafted along. Wafted in the direction of the future. I was locked within the flow-of-time's grasp. (The way no objects had any weight to them plus the knowledge my awareness was always in the present as it flowed, made me first believe that this physical life is an infinite number of planes (two-dimensionalities, which have no substance) with the third dimension created by the flow of time. But that proved out false.

(cont.)

 

[Im42nut2]

So, what physically happens when one enters the spirit? What is the key to that doorway? Why is this spiritual state also the state of eternal life? By prophesy and logically, who will be ready when that great event occurs?

Entering the spirit, by definition, should be the easiest thing we could ever do. All we have to do is let go!!! But our complicated brainwave patterns are what has thrown the monkey wrench into the works. In fact, that is exactly the way we hang onto our bodies...by employing the thought process.

The thinking portion of our brains consists of billions of individual cells vibrating at varying frequencies. They each have one input and one output. Every brain cell actually makes a loop out into our bodies. Each takes an input from a nerve and outputs to a neighboring muscle fiber or trigger mechanism. Our thoughts, our fears, our anticipations, our regrets; they're all part of the conglomerated set of brainwaves we're using to hang onto our physical bodies.

We hang onto our bodies by maintaining the thought process in three different sets. The first is the basic analogy which Freud called our innate fears…the id. Those are the higher frequency brain waves (eleven to fifteen cycles per second). They are subconscious to us and maintain themselves low and steady until a mental realization triggers them. The second set (three to eleven cycles per second) are the way we hold ourselves due to our personalities. These cells also maintain steady frequencies due to mainly being subconscious but are affected by our emotional responses driven by the lower ‘thinking’ frequencies of one to three cycles per second.

The all admired thought process. The use of it is what makes humans great. But alas, it's what's keeping us from the spirit. It must be released to enter the spirit. Releasing the thought process and releasing the body are synonymous.

Using the thought process to control the body has always been a losing battle...bodily death. No one has ever overcome that obstacle . (At least, there's no one anyone can prove has done it.) And no one ever will by staying in the physical. We make the body convert food energy into usable energy for itself by chemical reaction not dissimilar to burning, rotting, and rusting. It is deterioration. It's killing us. The body cannot rejuvenate itself as fast as we tear it down.

Using the thought process is also what's giving us our aches and pains. Anything felt throughout the body is processed and experienced in the brain. It may feel like an aching muscle, but you can release that portion of intensity of the brain that's controlling it and the ache will disappear. Some are so adept at this exercise that they don't require anesthesia for surgeries.

In the spirit the thought process is not used. And ,without thought, there is no doubting. The conclusion is: if the spirit is capable of all things, that this is the place that 'miracles' reside. Sorry, I didn't THINK to try a miracle. Or even try flying, which I've done in my sleep.

We are eggshaped luminous spiritual beings enveloped within a sea of spirituality. We are bubbles of spiritual energy. Those that have gained the ability to see spiritually describe us as filled with colorful filaments of light. And all of the space that spiritual beings are not occupying is also filled with colorful filaments of light...spiritual energy....god? I call it 'the total spirit'. I'll elaborate later why it should not be called 'god' (intimating that god is a separate awareness)...although I will use that term because of the familiarity we all have with it.

Those that see spiritually say that we have another eggshaped bubble within our individual spirits which is isolated from the rest of our spirit in the same manner as we are isolated from 'the total spirit' (god). This bubble of energy is seen differently than the rest of the spirit in that the energy lines are glowing brightly, whereas the rest of our spirit's energies appear dull in comparison. Some refer to this bubble as our 'assemblage point' because that's where we assemble our awareness. I think of it as the place in which we are cowering, instead of opening up to 'the total spirit'. Our 'assemblage points' appear to be approximately one foot in height and six inches in diameter. It would take a hundred of them to fill our whole spirit.

Our spirits do not have visible shells. Neither do our 'assemblage points'. The reason the outer limit to our spirits is seen is due to the fact that we are not spiritually linked to 'the total spirit' (we haven't 'given our life to god'?). But the 'assemblage point' works differently. Its energy lines not only are glowing brightly, they also extend outward and link to the energy within our full spirit, and continue out of our spirits, linking to 'the total spirit'. Through 'the total spirit' they extend to link with each other. Through these spiritual lines we interact/communicate while each of our spirits manifest themselves into the physical.

So, if we're only bubbles of spiritual energy, what's with this single three-dimensional universe we all appear to be living in?

That is the power of our individual spirits. It is a continuous manifestation...changing itself into physical energy. The spiritual energy is our own being, and the world we are each manifesting only extends to our outer shells. It manifests our own bodies, the immediate atmosphere, and all objects within our spirits. When we are in contact with others, their bodies/clothes/etc. are only manifestations of our own spirits. That which we cannot reach or touch is only 'painted' on our shells. The knowledge, wisdom, and power to do it comes from 'the total spirit' to which our 'assemblage point' is linked.

God is spiritual energy. It is the spiritual field of energy. We are part of that field. That field completely surrounds us. It butts right up against us. We spiritually link to that energy field to have life. It alone is all knowledge, wisdom, and power. That which we profess comes solely through spiritual linking. We would have and be nothing if we did not link to it.

The sad part of the story is that we’re holding ourselves away from fully linking to god. We’re only about one percent linked to it. That means we’re only using one percent of our spiritual energy. And we’re pretty much using that energy to hang on to our bodies for dear life.

God is the energy field, and all life forms are egg-shaped bubbles of energy emerging within the field. The knowledge and power gained through linking to it is used by our individual spirits to manifest ourselves into our tactile and visual physical lives. Let me repeat that. The knowledge and power gained through linking to god is used by our individual spirits to manifest ourselves into our tactile and visual physical lives.

 

[Im42nut2]

So, what is the goal of this evolutionary process we call life? The goal is to evolve into intelligent enough beings to be able to understand that eternal spiritual life awaits us, and then to enter into it. The human race is at the door of this great spiritual crossroads. We are not the first. Nor will there ever be a last. Collectively, we support billions of lifeforms which are on this same evolutionary quest. Some will take millions, some billions, and some trillions of years to evolve to the doorway that our species has finally reached.

By prophesy (an interpretation I've heard of the Bible: Revelations) there will be three waves of events for transcending into the spirit. It says that in the first wave only a hundred and forty four thousand will be ready. A few years later one half of those will come back to show the way to everyone else. Only half the world will join in the second wave. And the rest, if still alive, will have a third chance sometime later.

What I have just given you is the very basics. But a few topics I need to expound upon. The first is the event christians call 'the rapture'. They say that a personage who historicly lived two thousand years ago named Jesus of Nazareth is coming here to get the event started. Is that absurd notion remotely possible, knowing the way this spiritual/physical life works?

Yes, it is. Jesus evidently could enter the spirit almost at will. All of the 'miracles' writen of him dictate it. Although there were two times I believe he could not. Once was when he went into the mountains alone for forty days to meditate. The other was on the cross as he cried "my god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me?". I believe he expected to enter the spirit, come down from the cross, and show them the power of the spirit.

But I do not believe he died. I believe his rich uncle Joseph bought his body from the guards and nursed him back to health. He could have then entered the spirit to stay, manifesting his own world/s, awaiting our readiness.

There are a billion christians in the world today. Most of them think that they'll be whisked up in 'the rapture', even though their prophesy says that only one hundred and forty four thousand will be ready. Something must be amiss.

It sure is. It is the idea that there is a god out there. A fear that giving up the belief in 'him' will earn torment in a fiery place for ever and ever. But the logic of what is required to enter the spirit should make us understand that believing in a god is useless. To enter the spirit is to release the thought process. That means we must also give up any and all beliefs we have because they are nothing but thoughts. And they are keeping us FROM the spirit.

I was riding my dad's snowmobile when I entered the spirit. After spending a few minutes of elated joy and wonderment of the spiritual state I had found, I got back on the snowmobile and continued to my sister's place where I was headed. Upon meeting them, I discovered a significant aspect of flowing with the moment of time. The words/sentences they spoke were but garbled noise to my ears. I did not have the ability to fomulate the noise into words. And I still have no clue to what spiritual communication will be.

So, what is the formula for entering the spirit? Since striving for the spirit (having it as a goal) is an impossibilty (it is the ultimate 'catch-22'), we're going to need some help. But first we have to prepare ourselves.

If you believe that someone is just going to 'whisk' you up and away, you've got another think coming. Entering the spirit (releasing the body, passing through the doorway of death) is the most personal thing you'll ever do. No one can make that transition for you. And only then will you really understand the words 'I AM'.

I believe transcendental meditation (TM) is the key. By practicing the pathway to release we can come very close to that transition. When I come to that point in meditation where I've released the goal (because the goal is a thought) and have no idea what I'm doing, I'm floating so close the that doorway of death that it verily 'scares the hell out of me' (because I've also dropped the knowledge that spiritual life awaits me if I go there). I believe that is the feeling we all must learn and become familiar with. And be ready to do it completely on that glorious day.

As I've learned, meditation alone is not enough. But if we see and hear the event of loud trumpets in the air and a man riding a great white horse in the sky? To experience that should be so utterly astonishing that if we know how to release, we'll be able to.

A final word on 'the total spirit'. Does it have awareness? I believe it does. Otherwise, why would we have existence in the first place? Does it have emotions such as jealosy (thou shalt have no other gods before me)? Of course not. Emotions are a product of the physical brain and thought process. Judgement is also a thought process. Is it aware of all we do? Of course. The total ability we have to manifest this life comes completely through linking ourselves to it and through it to others. We are its life. We are its ability to have physical life.

I believe that there is only one entity. Most call it god. And all lifeforms are nothing more than the continuation/growth of god. I do not believe that god has any awareness other than every physical lifeform in existence. We are all a part of that entity. We are god manifested in the flesh. The perfection of god is to have a complete link with itself in the physical form...us.

It's too bad we're keeping 99% of our spiritual selves from linking to it. As the christian bible teaches, 'Give your life to God' to gain eternal life, becoming 100% linked to it, expanding the 'assemblage point' to our full spirits, giving up this life as we know it, is the pathway Jesus tried to teach.

I never frequent these religious forums, but I'll stick around a few days to answer questions. I don't debate religion. Religion is a waste of time and money. But worst of all it teaches bodily death. Eternal life is for only this physical life we're living. If you die a physical death, the energy you call yourself will simply join with the total energy field we call god. And your awareness will become part of the awareness of god.

I don't expect you to believe or even understand what I have written. But it should intrigue you enough to go to your local library and dig through its info. That's what I did. As I said, all I learned during my spiritual evening was only what I experienced. Those aspects you can trust me as fact. The summation of life came from 17 years of reading, 'adding 2 & 2 together', and coming up with what I am positive is 4.

I have so much more to expound upon, to explain, to tie together for total understanding. A book needs to be written. Is there a writer out there who would like to tackle the project? You can email me at [email protected]

 

[Super Universe]

I enjoyed your post.

One question I have:
What is the reason you do not see this sentient spirit that we are all a part of as God?

I certainly do not mean the God portrayed in the bible or by any other religion. Religion is a creation of man.

I agree with you that debating religion is a waste of time. People are comfortable with their beliefs as they are. They are not ready to accept any change in them even though they are thousands of years old.

But there are a few here who are quite familiar with everything you have said. Connecting with them and exchanging experiences makes it all worthwhile.

Also I agree with your summation of life, adding 2 and 2 together to logically come up with 4, but from my perspective they key has been seeing that sometimes, once in a while, in this universe, 2 and 2 equals 3.

 

[Im42nut2]

"What is the reason you do not see this sentient spirit that we are all a part of as God? "

I hope I understand your question. Can I rephrase it to: Why do I not believe the surrounding spiritual field (God) has a separate awareness and atributes of which some believe? And therefore put a name to it and call it God?

The first and most important reason is that there is no thought process in spiritual awareness. I'm sorry, but to actually understand the loss of the thought process, you'll have to enter the spirit and live it.

Look around you right now. Almost everything in the room you're in is pretty much oblivious to you as you read this post. In the spirit, you will be aware of every square inch of your environment continuously.

Being phisical (using the thought process), we continuously judge, display emotions due to our personalities we try to maintain, and apply reason to our surroundings.

There is none of that in the spirit.

All that man has tried to imply that God is, is an impossibility. The only life that God is, is us. We think we're individuals, having our own spirits, remaining our own spirits after bodily death. We're not. We are the life of God. That's all.

Now, reading your question again, I think you have misunderstood me. We're in agreement. You can call all of life God if you like.

 

[Halcyon]

There is much in your post i like, and some that i disagree with. I also think you have contradicted youself in one important aspect;

You say;

To enter the spirit is to release the thought process. That means we must also give up any and all beliefs we have because they are nothing but thoughts. And they are keeping us FROM the spirit.

Yet your post is jam packed with your personal beliefs, many of them unfounded and unverifyable. eg;

But I do not believe he died. I believe his rich uncle Joseph bought his body from the guards and nursed him back to health. He could have then entered the spirit to stay, manifesting his own world/s, awaiting our readiness.

Those that have gained the ability to see spiritually describe us as filled with colorful filaments of light. And all of the space that spiritual beings are not occupying is also filled with colorful filaments of light...spiritual energy....god? I call it 'the total spirit'.

A final word on 'the total spirit'. Does it have awareness? I believe it does. Otherwise, why would we have existence in the first place? Does it have emotions such as jealosy (thou shalt have no other gods before me)? Of course not.

The spiritual energy is our own being, and the world we are each manifesting only extends to our outer shells. It manifests our own bodies, the immediate atmosphere, and all objects within our spirits. When we are in contact with others, their bodies/clothes/etc. are only manifestations of our own spirits. That which we cannot reach or touch is only 'painted' on our shells.

Some of these things you say, like the Jesus belief, are entirely personal opinion based upon personal belief, others are based upon the experiences of others - like the filament stuff - and some on personal conclusions you have drawn from experience and research.

Without wanting to belittle your religious experience any, it seems to be a quite common "connectedness" experience - where people feel the connection between themselves and everything around them, including space/time itself. You feel relaxed, almost ecstatic, you don't want to leave the experience and you feel like it could go on forever.
I have them sometimes when in deep meditation (although no where near as dramatic as you describe), and i've read about many others having them too. They can be life changing experiences, and if they occur within a specific religion they reinforce faith in that religion - look-up the Four Stages to Nirvana in Buddhism, each stage is marked by an experience similar to yours.

I think the direction you go depends on the interpretation of that experience. You have obviously done a lot of research and seem to have constructed a set of beliefs about how the universe exists that works for you, that's great - but it doesn't necessarily mean that it is "Truth", it's your truth.

You seem fairly sure in your beliefs, and that's admirable, but some of them are debatable and when that is the case its hard to claim that your version of the "Truth" is any better than the Rapture adherant Christians.

For example, you claim to know (or at least strongly believe) that 'God' has conciousness but no emotions. How do you know?
You appear to understand that as individual humans we are but the shadows of specks upon God - do you really expect to be able to comprehend the form of consciousness and any emotions that such an entity may possess?

You believe we construct our own reality within an egg-like bubble, and that objects out of reach are "painted on". This idea is far-fetched and comparable to a multitude of other unproveable beliefs, like Heaven, Hell, spirit guides etc.

If it was as simple as letting go of our thought processes, then Buddhists around the globe would be reporting these filaments and egg-bubbles - but do they?

Like i said, i like much of what you have said. But from my personal perspective you have complicated what is essentially a very simple concept with various "New Age" psychical ideas.

 

[Willamena]

Without wanting to belittle your religious experience any, it seems to be a quite common "connectedness" experience - where people feel the connection between themselves and everything around them, including space/time itself. You feel relaxed, almost ecstatic, you don't want to leave the experience and you feel like it could go on forever.

How common is that, actually? I felt it once, rather unintentionally.

 

[gramps]

I see that you have given a lot of thought and study to your premise; However, I totally disagree with most of your ???, thoughts, inspiration, studys, or whatever
The first thing I disagree with, and it is according to the King James Bible is the fact that the righteous, or God's people, will have to survive the next tribulation.
Isaiah 26: 20 Come MY PEOPLE, enter thou into thy chamber, and shut thy door about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the INDIGNATION BE OVERPAST.
21

 

[gramps]

I see that you have given a lot of thought and study to your premise; However, I totally disagree with most of your ???, thoughts, inspiration, studys, or whatever
The first thing I disagree with, and it is according to the King James Bible is the fact that the righteous, or God's people, will have to survive the next tribulation.
Isaiah 26: 20 Come MY PEOPLE, enter thou into thy chamber, and shut thy door about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the INDIGNATION BE OVERPAST.
21 For,

 

[gramps]

I see that you have given a lot of thought and study to your premise; However, I totally disagree with most of your ???, thoughts, inspiration, studys, or whatever
The first thing I disagree with, and it is according to the King James Bible is the fact that the righteous, or God's people, will have to survive the next tribulation.
Isaiah 26: 20 Come MY PEOPLE, enter thou into thy chamber, and shut thy door about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the INDIGNATION BE OVERPAST.
21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place

 

[Halcyon]

How common is that, actually? I felt it once, rather unintentionally.

Pretty common. If you go to pretty much any religious website, especially New Age orientated ones, you will find people describing similar experiences.

 

[retrorich]

Eternal life is wishful thinking--the ultimate manifestation of human ego.

 

[w00t]

The idea of eternal life it if means forever and ever is pretty creepy!

 

[Hacker]

Sounds like an amazing experience, was this astral projection?