"ETs will save us": Tibetian monks say

[yuvgotmel]

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/12-26-04.asp

Remote viewing Tibetan monks see Extra Terrestrial powers saving the World from destroying itself in 2012

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Remote viewing is nothing new in Tibetan monasteries. For thousands of years remote viewing in the middle of other spiritual activities have dominated Tibetan culture. What some Indian tourists came to learn from a few Tibetan monasteries under the current Chinese rule is extremely alarming and fascinating.

According to these tourists remote viewers are seeing world powers in the course of self-destruction. They also see that the world will not be destroyed. Between now and 2012 the world super powers will continue to engage in regional wars. Terrorism and covert war will be the main problem. In world politics something will happen in and around 2010. At that time the world powers will threaten to destroy each other.

Between 2010 and 2012, the whole world will get polarized and prepare for the ultimate dooms day. Heavy political maneuvers and negotiations will take place with little progress.

In 2012, the world will start plunging into a total destructive nuclear war.

And at that time something remarkable will happen, says, Buddhist monk of Tibet. Supernatural divine powers will intervene. The destiny of the world is not to self-destruct at this time.

Scientific interpretation of the monks’ statements makes it evident that the Extra Terrestrial powers are watching us every step of the way. They will intervene in 2012 and save the world from self-destruction.

When asked about recent UFO sightings in India and China, the monks smiled and said the divine powers are watching us all. Mankind cannot and will not be allowed to alter the future to that great extent.

Every human being though their current acts in life called “Karma” can alter the future lives to some extent, but changing the destiny in that large extent will not be allowed to that great an extent.

Monks also mentioned that beyond 2012 our current civilization would understand that the final frontier of science and technology is in area of spirituality and not material physics and chemistry. Beyond 2012, out technologies will take a different direction. People will learn the essence of spirituality, the relation between body and the soul, the reincarnation and the fact we are connected with each other are all part of “God”.

In India and China UFO sightings have increased in many folds. Many say the Chinese and Indian Governments are being contacted by the Extra Terrestrials.

In recent days most UFO activities have been seen in those countries who have indigenously developed Nuke capabilities.

When asked if these extra-terrestrials will show up in reality in 2012, the answers remote viewers are giving is: they will reveal themselves in such a way that none of us scared. They will reveal themselves only if they have to. As our science and technology progresses, we are destined to see them and interact with them any way.

According to the remote viewers, our earth is blessed and is being saved continuously from all kinds of hazards all the time that we are not even aware of. As our technologies progress we will realize how external forces saved us.​

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Cool.



Now the only thing we need to do is to stock up on Reese's Pieces.




Peace,
Mystic

 

[michel]

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/12-26-04.asp

Remote viewing Tibetan monks see Extra Terrestrial powers saving the World from destroying itself in 2012

Remote viewing is nothing new in Tibetan monasteries. For thousands of years remote viewing in the middle of other spiritual activities have dominated Tibetan culture. What some Indian tourists came to learn from a few Tibetan monasteries under the current Chinese rule is extremely alarming and fascinating.​

According to these tourists remote viewers are seeing world powers in the course of self-destruction. They also see that the world will not be destroyed. Between now and 2012 the world super powers will continue to engage in regional wars. Terrorism and covert war will be the main problem. In world politics something will happen in and around 2010. At that time the world powers will threaten to destroy each other.​

Between 2010 and 2012, the whole world will get polarized and prepare for the ultimate dooms day. Heavy political maneuvers and negotiations will take place with little progress.​

In 2012, the world will start plunging into a total destructive nuclear war.​

And at that time something remarkable will happen, says, Buddhist monk of Tibet. Supernatural divine powers will intervene. The destiny of the world is not to self-destruct at this time.​

Scientific interpretation of the monks’ statements makes it evident that the Extra Terrestrial powers are watching us every step of the way. They will intervene in 2012 and save the world from self-destruction.​

When asked about recent UFO sightings in India and China, the monks smiled and said the divine powers are watching us all. Mankind cannot and will not be allowed to alter the future to that great extent.​

Every human being though their current acts in life called “Karma” can alter the future lives to some extent, but changing the destiny in that large extent will not be allowed to that great an extent.​

Monks also mentioned that beyond 2012 our current civilization would understand that the final frontier of science and technology is in area of spirituality and not material physics and chemistry. Beyond 2012, out technologies will take a different direction. People will learn the essence of spirituality, the relation between body and the soul, the reincarnation and the fact we are connected with each other are all part of “God”.​

In India and China UFO sightings have increased in many folds. Many say the Chinese and Indian Governments are being contacted by the Extra Terrestrials.​

In recent days most UFO activities have been seen in those countries who have indigenously developed Nuke capabilities.​

When asked if these extra-terrestrials will show up in reality in 2012, the answers remote viewers are giving is: they will reveal themselves in such a way that none of us scared. They will reveal themselves only if they have to. As our science and technology progresses, we are destined to see them and interact with them any way.​

According to the remote viewers, our earth is blessed and is being saved continuously from all kinds of hazards all the time that we are not even aware of. As our technologies progress we will realize how external forces saved us.​

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I have heard similar stories before. To be frank, I think they are most unlikely, but. of course, no one can prove either way until the day after!

It's not impossible, but perhaps improbable; I have no doubt that the Tibetan monks are acting in a perfectly honourable way, and believe what they are saying.

We'll have to see.

 

[James the Persian]

I have heard similar stories before. To be frank, I think they are most unlikely, but. of course, no one can prove either way until the day after!

It's not impossible, but perhaps improbable; I have no doubt that the Tibetan monks are acting in a perfectly honourable way, and believe what they are saying.

We'll have to see.

Well I'm certainly not about to go down to the booky on this one. Besides this story sounds like sensationalised third hand rumour to me. The correspondent apparently spoke to some unnamed tourists who made an unsubstantiated claim that some unnamed Tibetan monks at an unidentified monastery in China made some rather unlikely predictions which suspiciously coincide with the 'end of the world' date that is widely known to be on the Mayan calendar. Quite apart from the fact that this smacks of a desperate attempt to liven up the news, the sorts of things said sound absolutely nothing like anything I've ever heard from genuine Tibetan Buddhists, and I've met and spoken with genuine monks and even a couple of Lamas. In fact, I even had the honour of meeting the Karmapa, who's one of the most important figures in Tibetan Buddhism. Sometimes stories really are stories, even when they masquerade as news.

James

 

[lilithu]

Well I'm certainly not about to go down to the booky on this one. Besides this story sounds like sensationalised third hand rumour to me. The correspondent apparently spoke to some unnamed tourists who made an unsubstantiated claim that some unnamed Tibetan monks at an unidentified monastery in China made some rather unlikely predictions which suspiciously coincide with the 'end of the world' date that is widely known to be on the Mayan calendar. Quite apart from the fact that this smacks of a desperate attempt to liven up the news, the sorts of things said sound absolutely nothing like anything I've ever heard from genuine Tibetan Buddhists, and I've met and spoken with genuine monks and even a couple of Lamas. In fact, I even had the honour of meeting the Karmapa, who's one of the most important figures in Tibetan Buddhism. Sometimes stories really are stories, even when they masquerade as news.

James

Absolutely agree. (Unfortunately, I just frubaled you for something else.) It's amusing to me (in an alarming way) how the phrase "Buddhist monk" and especially "Tibetan monk" is used in the West to give creedence to what otherwise would automatically be seen as "new-age" tripe if the same claims were made by someone in New Mexico. We give spiritual authority to a romanticized stereotype of some supernaturally inclined, all knowing, "mystical" seer. It does a disservice to real monks.

 

[MaddLlama]

Umm...I was under the distinct impression that Buddhists didn't believe in God, so it sounds slightly implausible to me that a monk would say that "divine powers will save us". That sounds incredibly out of character.
And, besides, the jump from "divine powers" to "aliens" is an unsubtantiated one.
This is of course, other than what James said. I agree with him, that this whole thing sounds like hearsay, or at best a horrible game of telephone.

 

[michel]

Absolutely agree. (Unfortunately, I just frubaled you for something else.) It's amusing to me (in an alarming way) how the phrase "Buddhist monk" and especially "Tibetan monk" is used in the West to give creedence to what otherwise would automatically be seen as "new-age" tripe if the same claims were made by someone in New Mexico. We give spiritual authority to a romanticized stereotype of some supernaturally inclined, all knowing, "mystical" seer. It does a disservice to real monks.

Slightly off topic, a good friend of mine one day suddenly heard that a distant American Cousin was holidaying in Europe, and wanted to pass by the U.K to meet his relatives here.

He was (apparently) illeterate, but had been dictated an entire book by aliens who had landed near to where he used to go camping in Nevada. The gist of the story was almost the same; Earth (according to what he had been told by the aliens) was in fact a sort of "Penal colony" to which we had been sent as punishment for some gigantic inter galactic crime).............

His story was parallel in that we were being "overseen" and sometimes "helped". The funny thing was that Alan (my friend) was an intelligent guy, and a sceptic.

When he met the cousin (who gave him a copy of his book), he found him to seem to be perfectly normal. Well, who knows ? I remember we drank a few beers on that story.

 

[yuvgotmel]

Slightly off topic, a good friend of mine one day suddenly heard that a distant American Cousin was holidaying in Europe, and wanted to pass by the U.K to meet his relatives here.

He was (apparently) illeterate, but had been dictated an entire book by aliens who had landed near to where he used to go camping in Nevada. The gist of the story was almost the same; Earth (according to what he had been told by the aliens) was in fact a sort of "Penal colony" to which we had been sent as punishment for some gigantic inter galactic crime).............

His story was parallel in that we were being "overseen" and sometimes "helped". The funny thing was that Alan (my friend) was an intelligent guy, and a sceptic.

When he met the cousin (who gave him a copy of his book), he found him to seem to be perfectly normal. Well, who knows ? I remember we drank a few beers on that story.

There are many stories like that one Michel. And even though there is probably no one at this forum who could verify what the Tibetan monks have said, there are other spiritual peoples who do believe the same things. Even if this is still a bit off-topic, it fits anyway.

http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi1.html

The Hopi Indian UFOs Hopi Indian legends tell of a sure certainty in the future that the tribe's faithful will be lifted to other planets on the Day of Purification. And they watch and wait for the UFO's that will take them there.

The legend is borne of an ancient rock carving near Mishongnovi, AZ, depicting a dome-shaped saucer object and maiden that has become a core part of the tribe's religious beliefs. Elders in the Hopi community have said they perceive UFOs as having a direct connection with the old petroglyph drawing and the foretelling of visitors from space who arrive for the Day of Purification.

On that day, "all wicked people and wrong-doers will be punished or destroyed," said the Prescott Daily Courier in 1995. The newspaper reported on a visit to Prescott by Hope Chief Dan Katchongva, who with two others from the tribe came to investigate "the rash of UFOs in the summer of 1970.

The chief told the newspaper that "we believe other planets are inhabited and that our prayers are heard there. The arrow on which the dome-shaped object rests stands for travel through space. The Hopi maiden on the dome-shaped drawing represents purity. Those Hopi who survive Purification Day will travel to other planets. We, the faithful Hopi have seen the ships and know they are true."

Chief Katchongva also told of Hopi prophecies that say his people will be divided three times before the True White Brother arrives to take the faithful away. He said the first division occurred in 1906, when Chief Yukiuma were driven from the old town of Oraibi to Hoteville. The second division, said the chief, happened in 1969, when contact was made with a flying saucer that whispered a message to the tribe.

The third division is said to be the precursor of the Purification day, and until it arrives, the chief told the newspaper, "many Hopi men wear their bang haircut that represents a window from which they continue to look for the True White Brother who will arrive with matching pieces of the stone petroglyph.

But Chief Dan Katchongva won't see the day comeŠor perhaps he will. He's been missing since 1972, lost to the tribe while walking to a valley where a UFO had just been seen.

- Sally Suddock - X-Factor Magazine
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[angellous_evangellous]

And at that time something remarkable will happen, says, Buddhist monk of Tibet. Supernatural divine powers will intervene. The destiny of the world is not to self-destruct at this time.

Scientific interpretation of the monks’ statements makes it evident that the Extra Terrestrial powers are watching us every step of the way. They will intervene in 2012 and save the world from self-destruction.

How does scientific interpretation of the monk's statement produce the conclusion that the monks were talking about extra-terrestrials?

This interpretation could be applied to all religious expressions about the divine, when clearly these religions are not talking about ETs.

How this is scientific anyway is beyond me - has science found ETs that we can pin this on?​

 

[yuvgotmel]

How does scientific interpretation of the monk's statement produce the conclusion that the monks were talking about extra-terrestrials?

This interpretation could be applied to all religious expressions about the divine, when clearly these religions are not talking about ETs.

How this is scientific anyway is beyond me - has science found ETs that we can pin this on?​

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Evidence for ETs? Sure.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1776848428018799270&q=ufo

The video above are brief statements from dozens of people who are ready to testify before the U.S. Congress as to what they have witnessed concerning ETs while doing their jobs in various levels of the government and military.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5305085298884471236&q=ufo

Mexico has been a hotspot for UFOs for many years. UFOs have become so commonplace that the footage and number of witnesses are outstanding. The video above shows footage obtained from Mexican military pilots. Later in the video, there is footage of Mexican skies in broad daylight when HUNDREDS of UFOs appeared over a city.
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[MaddLlama]

I am signifigantly underwhelmed by both of those videos. Really, that scientifically proves the existance of aliens about as much as this proves the existance of bigfoot:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4Ye97-mNMhc

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I am signifigantly underwhelmed by both of those videos. Really, that scientifically proves the existance of aliens about as much as this proves the existance of bigfoot:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4Ye97-mNMhc

Or that Angellous is your daddy.

Scientific Evidence that Angellous is Your Daddy

 

[Jaymes]

Scientific interpretation of the monks’ statements makes it evident that the Extra Terrestrial powers are watching us every step of the way. They will intervene in 2012 and save the world from self-destruction.

What on earth is scientific about this interpretation?

 

[yuvgotmel]

What on earth is scientific about this interpretation?

Well I will say that the article was posted from an Indian news site. The Indians and other Eastern cultures, as Hema has remarked before, do not have the cultural stigma against ETs as Westerners do. Because some of the Hindu texts speak of what could be considered as extraterrestrials or aliens, the people are less hindered to believe the aliens to be a scientific fact.

Here is another article explaining the Indian view: http://peacejournalism.com/ReadArticle.asp?ArticleID=15969

 

[Jaymes]

Well I will say that the article was posted from an Indian news site. The Indians and other Eastern cultures, as Hema has remarked before, do not have the cultural stigma against ETs as Westerners do. Because some of the Hindu texts speak of what could be considered as extraterrestrials or aliens, the people are less hindered to believe the aliens to be a scientific fact.

Here is another article explaining the Indian view: http://peacejournalism.com/ReadArticle.asp?ArticleID=15969

You know, the problem with science is that for something to be a scientific fact, it has to be based on something more than shoddy videos and eyewitness testimony. Which, for reference? Is horrible. Especially if they've talked to anyone that might (consciously or subconsciously) try to 'guide' their testimony in one direction or another.

Unless you've got some scientific proof--actual scientific proof, not fuzzy pictures--that's been hidden up your sleeve until now, there's nothing scientific about this.

 

[yuvgotmel]

You know, the problem with science is that for something to be a scientific fact, it has to be based on something more than shoddy videos and eyewitness testimony. Which, for reference? Is horrible. Especially if they've talked to anyone that might (consciously or subconsciously) try to 'guide' their testimony in one direction or another.

Unless you've got some scientific proof--actual scientific proof, not fuzzy pictures--that's been hidden up your sleeve until now, there's nothing scientific about this.

Wow... I didn't realize you felt that way. Have you reviewed much of the material available on this subject?

 

[MaddLlama]

You know, the problem with science is that for something to be a scientific fact, it has to be based on something more than shoddy videos and eyewitness testimony. Which, for reference? Is horrible. Especially if they've talked to anyone that might (consciously or subconsciously) try to 'guide' their testimony in one direction or another.

Unless you've got some scientific proof--actual scientific proof, not fuzzy pictures--that's been hidden up your sleeve until now, there's nothing scientific about this.

Which is precisely why Bigfoot and the Lochness monster are still myths.

 

[Jaymes]

Wow... I didn't realize you felt that way. Have you reviewed much of the material available on this subject?

I've read many an online site, watched UFO programs every time they come on TV (when I used to regularly watch TV, anyway), but I haven't felt inclined to spend my money on books on the subject. I've found absolutely no evidence that stands up to scientific scrutiny, and you don't seem willing to produce any.

 

[yuvgotmel]

You know, the problem with science is that for something to be a scientific fact, it has to be based on something more than shoddy videos and eyewitness testimony. Which, for reference? Is horrible. Especially if they've talked to anyone that might (consciously or subconsciously) try to 'guide' their testimony in one direction or another.

Unless you've got some scientific proof--actual scientific proof, not fuzzy pictures--that's been hidden up your sleeve until now, there's nothing scientific about this.

You might want to check out a new press release that just came out yesterday http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=776375#post776375

The Former Governor of Arizona has finally admitted to seeing the famous Phoenix Lights many years ago. He also has been interviewed on film where he spoke about how he handled the UFO cases while he was in office. And he explains how he would now handle the cases if he were still in office. http://www.outofthebluethemovie.com/5YearAnniversary/5YAR.html

 

[Jaymes]

You might want to check out a new press release that just came out yesterday http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=776375#post776375

The Former Governor of Arizona has finally admitted to seeing the famous Phoenix Lights many years ago. He also has been interviewed on film where he spoke about how he handled the UFO cases while he was in office. And he explains how he would now handle the cases if he were still in office. http://www.outofthebluethemovie.com/5YearAnniversary/5YAR.html

Did you just completely ignore the whole "eyewitness testimony isn't reliable" thing? Here, you can read up about it here.

And I find it pretty funny that none of the links you provided link to his actual testimony... presumably so that one has to buy the movie to see it. You'd think something adding to the reliability of intelligent aliens visiting us would be something freely available.