European Ambassader to resign because of Trump

[Riders]

How many more will we lose because of President Trump
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/politics/us-ambassador-estonia-resign-trump/index.html

 

[Sunstone]

I've heard the state department has been more or less gutted by high level resignations, and that those resigning have been outspoken about Trump being their reason to resign.

 

[Estro Felino]

Excellent. We don't want Russophobes in the EU, especially in the Baltic area.

 

[Sunstone]

Elizabeth Shackelford wrote that "despite the stinging disrespect this Administration has shown our profession," the State Department's diplomats "continue the struggle to keep our foreign policy on the positive trajectory necessary to avert global disaster in increasingly dangerous times."

"Avert global disaster". I think that's a fair and telling comment on the significance of so many State Department higher ups leaving their careers behind.

 

[Sunstone]

Excellent. We don't want Russophobes in the EU, especially in the Baltic area.

I can tell you're not rumor-mongering by the plain fact you have given no support whatsoever for your accusation.

 

[Estro Felino]

In Europe many anti-Russian diplomats and politicians are on the verge of committing suicide because Trump is going to meet Putin...because a new Russia-US alliance will isolate them.
Giulietto Chiesa, Italian journalist was arrested in 2014 in Estonia for defending Putin in a conference.

Obviously pro-Russian countries like mine don't tolerate such acts.
Rise of far-right in Italy and Austria gives Putin some friends in the west

 

[Sunstone]

In Europe many anti-Russian diplomats and politicians are on the verge of committing suicide because Trump is going to meet Putin...

You really never stop lying, do you?

 

[sun rise]

Excellent. We don't want Russophobes in the EU, especially in the Baltic area.

Spoken like a true believer in Russian hegemony. I'm a patriotic American and therefore oppose Vlad's power grabs.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Maybe there will be a proper Administration this time.

 

[BSM1]

Elizabeth Shackelford wrote that "despite the stinging disrespect this Administration has shown our profession," the State Department's diplomats "continue the struggle to keep our foreign policy on the positive trajectory necessary to avert global disaster in increasingly dangerous times."

"Avert global disaster". I think that's a fair and telling comment on the significance of so many State Department higher ups leaving their careers behind.

Uhhh...it's not her State Department. God save us from career bureaucrats...

 

[Yerda]

Excellent. We don't want Russophobes in the EU, especially in the Baltic area.

Out of interest are you familiar with Estonia's struggles against Russian interference since indepence?

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Alas the trump'n'Furer has drained the swamp.... directly into his staff.

Quitting out from under the Fascism that is trumps' power-grabs is the only sane recourse, as Edict by Edict, the trump'n'Furer erodes away freedom, safety and sanity.

As someone once quipped (allegedly) of Mueler? "I wish trump would f***ng stop breaking the law long enough so we can wrap this up"

 

[Estro Felino]

Out of interest are you familiar with Estonia's struggles against Russian interference since independence?

I am familiar with what your POTUS did in 2014.
He unjustly imposed sanctions on Russia, even if Crimea had been annexed legally through a referendum.

These sanctions are damaging Russia, so it's Putin who should be mad at the US...not the opposite.

Spoken like a true believer in Russian hegemony. I'm a patriotic American and therefore oppose Vlad's power grabs.

As Italy has always loved Putin, I will defend Putin, patriotically

 

[dust1n]

Out of interest are you familiar with Estonia's struggles against Russian interference since indepence?

Mm, how can I say no without saying no. I GOT IT.

 

[YmirGF]

Isn't this like cutting off your nose to save face? If times are so desperate and the stakes so very high why on earth would people seek to abandon their posts when they are so sorely needed? Isn't that the point when you would dig in for the long haul? In other words, they care so very much about their posts and the state of affairs that they are quitting? Seriously?

 

[Jumi]

Kind of a bad idea the leave government posts if you disagree with a president, in my opinion. You're just giving the guy you hate an opportunity to put their guy in your place.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'm not against any of them quitting. In fact don't let the door hit you on the *** on the way out.

 

[dust1n]

Isn't this like cutting off your nose to save face? If times are so desperate and the stakes so very high why on earth would people seek to abandon their posts when they are so sorely needed? Isn't that the point when you would dig in for the long haul? In other words, they care so very much about their posts and the state of affairs that they are quitting? Seriously?

Basically, they are public servants. Their position is to carry out whatever directives are handed down to them. If they feel they can not actually carry out those positions, they resign because it's a sort of honor thing where you shouldn't hold a position if you aren't willing to do what the position requires. Some of these guys have been doing this stuff for like 20+ years under different presidents. They would rather quit the position than compromise the essence of the position... They may be sorely needed, but if they can't actually do the things that they are sorely needed for, then I imagine it doesn't count for much in their minds.

Plus, also not many people, at least in position of something so subtle as an ambassadorship, probably wish to retain the benefits they have accumulated as opposed to lose them if fired or something, and also I imagine they get themselves out of their situation because not many people want to be work at a hellhole.

 

[YmirGF]

Basically, they are public servants. Their position is to carry out whatever directives are handed down to them. If they feel they can not actually carry out those positions, they resign because it's a sort of honor thing where you shouldn't hold a position if you aren't willing to do what the position requires. Some of these guys have been doing this stuff for like 20+ years under different presidents. They would rather quit the position than compromise the essence of the position... They may be sorely needed, but if they can't actually do the things that they are sorely needed for, then I imagine it doesn't count for much in their minds.

Plus, also not many people, at least in position of something so subtle as an ambassadorship, probably wish to retain the benefits they have accumulated as opposed to lose them if fired or something, and also I imagine they get themselves out of their situation because not many people want to be work at a hellhole.

But, in theory, they only have to hang on for 2 more years before the Democrat landslide to replace Trump and then it's party time again. LIke, c'mon, the Ambassador to Estonia is about as backwater as it gets. It's far from high profile. Couldn't they just sit, wring their hands and mark off the days on the calendar?

 

[dust1n]

But, in theory, they only have to hang on for 2 more years before the Democrat landslide to replace Trump and then it's party time again. LIke, c'mon, the Ambassador to Estonia is about as backwater as it gets. It's far from high profile. Couldn't they just sit, wring their hands and mark off the days on the calendar?

I mean, I guess they possible could. Who would want to do that, and what function does that serve? I mean, generally I go to work, I look forward to not having a miserable position where you are getting directives to do counterproductive things, and the best case scenario is to sit around and do nothing.

I also imagine an ambassador getting fired as opposed to retirement is also a great way to lose any and all benefits of retiring...