painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
Meh... looks like the same old arguments and misconceptions to me.
wa:do
wa:do
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Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Thanks for the link. Slow? I don't think "slow" even begins to describe it. Also, it seems there's pretty much just one active creationist there, and the two of you are having fun.
How do you define Creationism, TashaN? Do you find belief in the Quran incompatible with biological evolution in some way?
I think Creation is the basic idea that we been created by God, no? 
Regarding biological evolution--is there another type of evolution?--i don't know that much about it.
I read Darwin's book and another book commenting on it by an Australian scientist. I don't see why people believed that we might have a common ancestor with Apes. Yes, great discoveries, but to link us by Apes? that's nonsense. Not just because i believe we been created by God, but also because Atheists got so excited about this issue that they are holding it as a dogma without considering that there is a chance even a tiny one that we might have been just created by God.
I believe that human beings evolved, but not from Apes but from an early human being who can speak and think just the way we do.
Regarding biological evolution--is there another type of evolution?--i don't know that much about it.
I read Darwin's book and another book commenting on it by an Australian scientist. I don't see why people believed that we might have a common ancestor with Apes. Yes, great discoveries, but to link us by Apes? that's nonsense. Not just because i believe we been created by God, but also because Atheists got so excited about this issue that they are holding it as a dogma without considering that there is a chance even a tiny one that we might have been just created by God.
I believe that human beings evolved, but not from Apes but from an early human being who can speak and think just the way we do.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
Evolution isn't atheistic TashaN.
And why is it ridiculous that God created our bodies from those of apes?
wa:do
And why is it ridiculous that God created our bodies from those of apes?
wa:do
evolved yet?
A Young Evolutionist
There used to be three creationists and four evolutionists. And we got a visit from Dennis Markuze (the most famous troll in the world).
camanintx
Well-Known Member
I can't understand why you find this so surprising. If atheists thought there was a even a small chance that there was a God who could have created us, they wouldn't be athiests, would they?
Maybe they would, if they found that chance not worth of believing in...
I think Creation is the basic idea that we been created by God, no?
Well, yes. Why it is usually extrapolated into doubting evolution I don't really know.
There are those who link Darwin's evolution to everything from the Big Bang to the supposed endless growth of the wisdom of disimbodied spiritists. So I have taken to emphasizing that it is a biological theory, not a religious belief.
It seems to me that if there is a God that even reasonably resembles the Abrahamic conception of same, the chance is very high indeed. Evolution doesn't deny that. It never even had the power to attempt to, really. That is one of the reason why I am so surprised by this supposed controversy.
It is my understanding that, to many believers, god did indeed create humanity. It just turns out that he used biology to make it so, the evolution of new species as described by Darwin and Wallace being part of the means.
Biologists are expected to accept evolution because it is what the evidence shows, much like any other scientist is expected to work with the evidence instead of in defiance to it. That has nothing whatsoever to do with doubting God. Evolution is no more denial of God than, say, finding out that bones need calcium to develop well, or that diamonds are made of carbon.
Those are neither denial nor affirmation of God. They just are. They are matters of science, not of faith.
Technically speaking, I don't think there was ever a biologist actually proposing that apes were humanity's ancestors. Modern apes have ancestors in common with humanity. We both diverged from those ancestors by different paths. Our common ancestors were very apelike, of course (as are we even today). But they were not apes proper.
As for why I say so, it is because a very impressive amount of information has been gathered since Darwin. It is now possible to study the differences and resemblances between apes and humans in a variety of ways, up to and including the actual genetic structure and contents of the cells of both groups. And as it turns out, if there is a God he went out of his way to convince us that evolution is a fact.
newhope101
Active Member
That forum looks as if Evolved Yet owns it. and is about the only one that wants to play.
So if someone credentialed like John Sanford came on here and peddled his research and papers on entropy, would that have you lot say there is a quality creationist here. I doubt it.
Evolutionists are the peddlers of Zombie Science...dead yet still kicking.:sad4:
You start up creationist bashing threads as some excuse to justify your own miserable existence. Do you all feel good.:yes:
Many here believe in a God, but rather than see themselves a foolish one sees themselves as a winner so long as one believes in TOE. However if one believes in God and creation one is a looser. Hypocricy at its best.
Then of course there are the atheists here haunting religious forums, with no resemblance of religion within them and they will kick and scream like wild cats if you infer they are idiots for seeking out such forums. Some even claim atheism is a religion. They remind me of demons or the seriously unemployed lurking around with no place better to go. What a life!
But you guys have your nice little meeting and help yourselves feel better and jutify your own existence in the world, because this theoretical science of yours won't.
http://au.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S0zu...1p&sigb=1302g72om&type=png&.crumb=k9niHOn9u9J
Maybe one of these guys beat tiktaalic to shore!
McBell
Unbound
Seems to me that it is not that there can be a chance so much as there is no evidence to suggest that there is.
McBell
Unbound
That forum looks as if Evolved Yet owns it. and is about the only one that wants to play.
So if someone credentialed like John Sanford came on here and peddled his research and papers on entropy, would that have you lot say there is a quality creationist here. I doubt it.
Evolutionists are the peddlers of Zombie Science...dead yet still kicking.:sad4:
You start up creationist bashing threads as some excuse to justify your own miserable existence. Do you all feel good.:yes:
Many here believe in a God, but rather than see themselves a foolish one sees themselves as a winner so long as one believes in TOE. However if one believes in God and creation one is a looser. Hypocricy at its best.
Then of course there are the atheists here haunting religious forums, with no resemblance of religion within them and they will kick and scream like wild cats if you infer they are idiots for seeking out such forums. Some even claim atheism is a religion. They remind me of demons or the seriously unemployed lurking around with no place better to go. What a life!
But you guys have your nice little meeting and help yourselves feel better and jutify your own existence in the world, because this theoretical science of yours won't.
Maybe one of these guys beat tiktaalic to shore!
Here is some cheese to go with your whine...
camanintx
Well-Known Member
Evidence or not, I just think it is funny that he faults people for not giving God a chance when by definition they don't believe God exists.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
Shall we play her a tune?
as they take her away?
wa:do
as they take her away?
wa:do
McBell
Unbound
If you have a point, it is simply not coming through. Would you like to reword it?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Here's your sign...form another thread....I quote myself.
If you offer your words....your opinion...your argument...your discussion....etc...
Your words are what you believe.
Though you happen to be contrary....objecting...'nay' saying...etc....
your efforts still comes from what goes on ...in your head....what you think....what you feel.
That you lack the will...or reason ...to be positive....doesn't mean you have it correct.
And your lack of belief...is your belief. That act of denial...is a belief.
Nay saying is action brought by belief.
Drawing a conclusion and not having found cause...you make denial.
Your conclusion...your denial is what you think...what you believe.
Somewhere...I think it was grade school...
A discussion of logic came up....in which a flow of thought resulted in bad conclusion.
The discussion was made to demonstrate the point...logic can fail.
Definition isn't always absolute.
And there seems a exception to every rule.
And then another nay sayer steps up.....
Around and around we go.....
I know, but i said so because it's mostly celebrated by Atheists.
Because i still can't understand this. If it was true that we have evolved from Apes to be human beings, then why the weaker specie "Ape" could survive till now? We shouldn't exist along with the pre-evolved form of us at the same time, no? Forgive my ignorance if this was a silly question. I'm just curious about evolution and i admit that i still don't know that much about it in details as you guys here do.