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Ever read the Koran?

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I've read the Koran all the way through twice (both times in jail)...I didn't get much out of it because I found it incoherent and difficult to understand.

One of the copies I read had the verses in Arabic next to the English.. .that was the best part of it because the Arabic looked cool :cool:

I liked what the Koran said about Mary and my favorite Surah was the one dedicated to her. I also liked the story of OT Joseph, son of Jacob.

Have you ever read the Qur'an? What did you think?
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
I tried reading it, then when I asked about something in it I was told that I couldn't understand it because I don't read Arabic. I felt if it was such a difficult book that I'd better spend my time reading something in the languages I know.
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
One of the copies I read had the verses in Arabic next to the English.. .that was the best part of it because the Arabic looked cool :cool:

If you liked the Arabic script, then try listening to it to really understand the power of this book.

Quran Explorer <<10-15 mins with headphones on

Have a problem in your life? Need someone to listen and give you advice?

Ask your question with sincerity and open the Qur'an on any page you randomly pick, and start reading wherever your eyes fall.

 

MohammadPali

Active Member
If you read the quran and you call that dull, you haven't really read it. The quran is better communicated when you learn the life of the prophet mohammad, peace upon him first. A good book is the sealed nector. Good book, easy to ready, you will see how life was like back in those days. And say wow that make sense.

Otherwise the dullest books I ever read, and I'm sorry to report was the mishnah and the midrash. Some where down the line, theres an argument between rabbis about a particular plant, and it was just on and on and on, I think it was about arugula. And its like this throughout the books, I read a little of the talmud, ill get to that some other time.

The only thing I found interesting in both these books was the temple rituals, and the way they talked about the nazarites. Very interesting.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I read the Quran in a college course, and studied the Quran in A Baha'i class on Islam. It was an interesting study relating to the relationship between Judaism, Christianity, Islam and the Baha'i Faith.
 
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icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
I read it. It depends on the context with which you read it. As an example of the state of authoring in the 7th century, it's historically interesting.

But as the "perfect, timeless, final, and unalterable word of the creator of the universe", it's horrible. It's illogical, defensive, paranoid, misogynistic, homophobic, anti-semitic, supremacist, violent, exceedingly tribal, and so on. It certainly does not describe a set of values or morals upon which to build a vibrant, thriving society.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I read it. It depends on the context with which you read it. As an example of the state of authoring in the 7th century, it's historically interesting.

But as the "perfect, timeless, final, and unalterable word of the creator of the universe", it's horrible. It's illogical, defensive, paranoid, misogynistic, homophobic, anti-semitic, supremacist, violent, exceedingly tribal, and so on. It certainly does not describe a set of values or morals upon which to build a vibrant, thriving society.

Just like the Bible.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Once again, we are basically told that nothing neutral or negative about the Qur'an is supposed to count.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Just like the Bible.
To an extent.

For all its many faults, the Bible is not usually presented as immutable and valid literally to the end of time due to a supposed guarantee from God. I don't know that it is quite so tribal and warlike and the Qur'an either, although that is more disputable.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I read the Quran in a college course, and studied the Quran in A Baha'i class on Islam. It was an interesting study relating to the relationship between Judaism, Christianity, Islam and th eBaha'i Faith.
Skipped all those sacred books too.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
If you liked the Arabic script, then try listening to it to really understand the power of this book.

Quran Explorer <<10-15 mins with headphones on

Have a problem in your life? Need someone to listen and give you advice?

Ask your question with sincerity and open the Qur'an on any page you randomly pick, and start reading wherever your eyes fall.

That Quran Explorer web site did not work - no audio on my computer.

I've not read the Quran "cover to cover", but I have read sections as well as read various scholars interpretations. Those I've found interesting. Reading and interpreting the Quran is fraught with problems.

Though the Quran is divided into 114 chapters (called suras), these are arranged neither thematically nor chronologically but rather from longest to shortest, the lone exception being the first and most important chapter, al-Fatiha, or "The Opening." The chapters are given evocative titles like "The Cow" or "The Feast," but these have almost nothing to do with the content that follows. The Quran itself states that its verses have multiple meanings, some of which are unfathomable to human beings and known only to God. And yet, in both style and content, the Quran is unique among scriptures.
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Arabic is a language whose words can have multiple, sometimes contradictory, meanings, so how one chooses to render a particular word from Arabic to English has a lot to do with one's biases or prejudice. Take the following example from Sura 4:34, which has long been interpreted as allowing husbands to beat their wives: "As for those women who might rebel against you, admonish them, abandon them in their beds, and strike them (adribuhunna)." The problem, as a number of female Quranic scholars have noted, is that adribuhunna can also mean "turn away from them." It can even mean "have sexual intercourse with them." Obviously, which definition the translator chooses will be colored by whatever his or her preconceived notions are about a husband's authority.
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As a consequence, those who are unfamiliar with the early history of Islam, or who may not recognize the historical allusions or contextual references that assist scholars in their exegesis, can feel rudderless trying to navigate through this challenging book.
Interpreting the Quran - IslamiCity
 

Kuzcotopia

If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
I've read the Koran all the way through twice (both times in jail)...I didn't get much out of it because I found it incoherent and difficult to understand.

One of the copies I read had the verses in Arabic next to the English.. .that was the best part of it because the Arabic looked cool :cool:

I liked what the Koran said about Mary and my favorite Surah was the one dedicated to her. I also liked the story of OT Joseph, son of Jacob.

Have you ever read the Qur'an? What did you think?

I've read a portion of it. It's written in the same rambling style as biblical books like Isiah, flittinf from topic to topic.

If any of this stuff is the actual word of a God, then that god has the mental state of a very judgemental hummingbird.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
To an extent.

For all its many faults, the Bible is not usually presented as immutable and valid literally to the end of time due to a supposed guarantee from God. I don't know that it is quite so tribal and warlike and the Qur'an either, although that is more disputable.

The Church Fathers and virtually all Christians believed in the immutability and Divine inspiration and valid literally to the end of time due to a supposed guarantee of God up until the 18th century when cracks began to appear in this view. But unfortunately remains the the view of the plurality if not the majority of Christians today.
 

SabahTheLoner

Master of the Art of Couch Potato Cuddles
Not much. A lot of what I did read didn't resonate with me but I select verses in English (Muslims believe the true Koran is in Arabic) so I might be missing some context, despite my general understanding of it.
 
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