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Evidence for a Young Earth (Not Billions of Years Old)

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
How do you know they were?

Especially when they specifically told you they were never large. And to survive a force of 105 million pounds per square foot without vaporizing, would require a large body with significant gravitational force.

Your nonexistent straw you are grasping at requires ignoring physics....
How can anyone else make straw men? You have all the straw. If you were a Batman villain, you would be the Scarecrow. Full of straw.

Care to answer my questions that have been asked, but remain unanswered by you?
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
I’m not the one ignoring that 100 breeds of dogs came from one wolf stock and yet we can’t get but a few from Poodles.....

That’s you who’s biology doesn’t fit reality. Despite bacteria remaining bacteria no matter how many times you mutate them. Fruit flies remaining fruit flies no matter how many times you mutate them. Fossils that never change across the millions of years of their existence until they go extinct.

Only your biology claims things never once observed ever....

If you want a question answered, ask..... don’t get scared of the answers before you ask the question. Only someone scared of the answers needs to pretend he can’t asks questions until permission is given to him....

But it still won’t change the fact that 96% of your cosmology is ad-hoc epicycles.
You assert oodles and oodles of never ending poodles, but where is your evidence that novel variation cannot arise within poodles and has not? Where? Where is it? Come on. Talk to me Goose.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
96% of your cosmology is ad-hoc and not required where GR has been tested to a 99.8% accuracy.

But like I said, you’ll continue to ignore that accuracy.... because you don’t believe in GR at all.

Since you can't even do basic Newtonian Mechanics you are in no position to make this claim. Or did you forget your massive escape velocity fail? If you learned some physics then someone might give you just a little bit of credibility, but right now you sound like someone telling a pilot that it is impossible for a Boeing 747 to fly.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
The James Webb telescope will simply uncover further fully mature galaxies and galaxy clusters falsifying your theories again, even though that’s already been done. You just keep ignoring those mature galaxies and galaxy clusters before they had time to form according to the theory.....

Just hand wave it away as a minor problem instead of the falsifying fact that it is.....
Why do you keep running away when I ask questions about your oodles and oodles of never ending poodles?
 

gnostic

The Lost One
Can you understand that General Relativity has been tested to a 99.8% accuracy inside the solar system to clumps of non-ionized matter, planetary systems (.1% of the universe) without any ad-hoc theory added to it????
Good grief! :facepalm:

You seriously need to do further reading on General Relativity, by actually picking up and reading the physics textbook or go back to school and take up physics, because you are seriously haven’t understood even the basics.

General Relativity is a lot larger than the 1st year uni or college level, and clearly you have ignored a lot of it.

Some parts of GR have been tested, and some parts have application in science and technology, BUT there are parts that remained untested and remained theoretical.

For instances, GR include the singularity (which you have mentioned): the singularity of stellar blackholes have been tested, in most case, indirectly detected, while the singularity of the earliest stage of the universe is still untested and undetected.

Another example is the wormhole, which is part of GR that remained theoretical.

There are some more areas of General Relativity, which remained “theoretical”, and untestable. You giving a percentage of accuracy of 99.8% is absurd and arbitrary - or to put it more bluntly, stupid.

You cannot put percentages of accuracy on GR, based on your personal preferences, when you ignore other parts of GR.
 

Justatruthseeker

Active Member
But you are.

You cannot answer my questions can you.

Still not answering my questions. Why is that? We all know.

But you have oodles and oodles of never ending poodles that claim things never observed. Those poor poodles. Carrying you away from answering questions. No it is not the loyal dog that is barring you. It is the fact that your fantasy biology cannot answer questions.

Still no answer to my questions.

I did ask. It is here for all to see. They were asked and have been avoided like the plague. If you cannot answer my questions just say so and stop pretending, obfuscating and relying on ad hominem and straw man fallacies. I do not need to see more evidence that you cannot answer them. Not at all, but you just keep giving away that evidence free of charge.

Still not answering my questions. How unexpected.

Not.
Ask, not going back hoping to find the question you want answered so you can continue to avoid just restating it so you can continue to pretend it’s not being answered.

I said ask, and yet you avoided restating your question just so you can pretend it’s not being answered....
Sad....
 

Justatruthseeker

Active Member
Good grief! :facepalm:

You seriously need to do further reading on General Relativity, by actually picking up and reading the physics textbook or go back to school and take up physics, because you are seriously haven’t understood even the basics.

General Relativity is a lot larger than the 1st year uni or college level, and clearly you have ignored a lot of it.

Some parts of GR have been tested, and some parts have application in science and technology, BUT there are parts that remained untested and remained theoretical.

For instances, GR include the singularity (which you have mentioned): the singularity of stellar blackholes have been tested, in most case, indirectly detected, while the singularity of the earliest stage of the universe is still untested and undetected.

Another example is the wormhole, which is part of GR that remained theoretical.

There are some more areas of General Relativity, which remained “theoretical”, and untestable. You giving a percentage of accuracy of 99.8% is absurd and arbitrary - or to put it more bluntly, stupid.

You cannot put percentages of accuracy on GR, based on your personal preferences, when you ignore other parts of GR.
I’m not the one that keeps ignoring that GR has been tested to a 99.8% accuracy in the solar system without one spec of Fairie Dust.... then thinks adding 96% Fairie Dust to a theory already tested to a 99.8% accuracy is ok....

Why do you keep ignoring its accuracy?

GR by the way breaks down at the event horizon of every mythical black hole. The math you claim supports you does just the opposite since the energy tensor is set to zero, declaring their is no other mass in the entire universe but that of the singularity. It’s what made the BB a scientific possibility to begin with, hence singularity. But you ignore that very math you claim to follow and insert them by the billions, despite the energy momentum transit being set to zero in all solutions, demanding no other mass exists but that of the singularity.

Please, you understand the math not at all or you would accept the very reason the BB was a possibility to begin with, because the math demands the singularity is the only mass that exists in the universe....
 

Justatruthseeker

Active Member
Since you can't even do basic Newtonian Mechanics you are in no position to make this claim. Or did you forget your massive escape velocity fail? If you learned some physics then someone might give you just a little bit of credibility, but right now you sound like someone telling a pilot that it is impossible for a Boeing 747 to fly.
The only one who failed in escape velocity is you, along with your absurdity of curvature causing PE. You spent six useless pages arguing that absurdity you finally had to admit was wrong, while claiming just like you are now it was me that was wrong.

It’s only people that think escape velocity increases as mass decreases that fail to understand physics.... but what can one expect from someone spending six pages arguing for something clearly in error while claiming it’s the other guy in error..... sad, sad, sad....

Maybe one day you’ll learn what an r squared force means......
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Ask, not going back hoping to find the question you want answered so you can continue to avoid just restating it so you can continue to pretend it’s not being answered.

I said ask, and yet you avoided restating your question just so you can pretend it’s not being answered....
Sad....
So you are just going to keep jerking everyone around and falsely place the blame for your avoidance of questions on those that asked them.

You told me I did not need your permission to ask questions. You did not tell me to ask them. Are you capable of doing more than making things up?
 

Justatruthseeker

Active Member
So you are just going to keep jerking everyone around and falsely place the blame for your avoidance of questions on those that asked them.

You told me I did not need your permission to ask questions. You did not tell me to ask them. Are you capable of doing more than making things up?
I said you didn’t need permission to ask, ask. Because otherwise your avoidance is getting tiresome.....
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
I said you didn’t need permission to ask, ask. Because otherwise your avoidance is getting tiresome.....
It was back just three pages and you had a post that followed mine to boot. How you revel in false testimony.

My avoidance? You have avoided my questions consistently. It was not the first time I asked them. How many times do I need to ask them? Do you have some sort of threshold of activation that needs to be crossed over? Your avoidance threshold is clearly not that high. LOL!

You make numerous claims that you do not bother to back up with any evidence. This is well known and understood to be how you operate. The arguments that you do produce are largely straw man arguments laced with ad hominems and references to rabbit mating. This is also widely recognized as part of your strategy.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
I said you didn’t need permission to ask, ask. Because otherwise your avoidance is getting tiresome.....
Here are some of them again. You have my permission to answer them.

How have you determined that there are only 100 breeds of dog? How have you determined that there is no variation in the poodle or any of these other breeds? What is your evidence that poodle breeders save and report all the variation that results in their breeding of poodles? You must have this information to make and support your claims. Surely, you are not fibbing to us or hoping we will not look deeper are you?

Where is your evidence that I have ignored the different types of poodles? How is this not a personal attack, considering that I have not ignored different breeds of poodle?

How have you determined that these few different types of poodle that you now concede exist did not arise from mutations? Even if they are the result of interbreeding with other existing breeds, how is that an argument against evolution? Do you have evidence that the theory of evolution stipulates that variation come from a single source?

How is your argument using the poodle not an argument that variation is introduced from other sources outside of mutation and is in fact an argument against evolution? If evolution relies on variation and differential reproductive success through natural selection, why does that variation have to come from mutation only?

Aside from the massive projection you are illustrating for your own view, how is this not a personal attack on me? How does this support your oodles and oodles of never ending poodles model?

I agree. You seem to default to that position. On what basis do you feel that attacking other posters defends your position and demonstrates the validity of your claims? How is the reliance on a superficial set of circumstances associated with your view of poodle breeding looking at reality?

How is this post of yours that I am responding to anything more than just a personal attack on me? Where is the evidence that supports your assertion of oodles and oodles of never ending poodles? Do you think this post provides that evidence? Where?
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
If the current state of dog breeding is the model that refutes evolution, then a number of facts must be demonstrated to be correct.

These include:

1. Evolution must be demonstrated to occur based solely on variation from mutation and no other source.

2. Existing variation must be demonstrated not to result in evolution.

3. All existing variation needs to be explained and shown not to result from mutation.

4. It must be demonstrated that dog breeding does not result in new variation.

5. Dog breeding methodologies must be established and a mechanism used by breeders to capture and report any potential variation must be shown to exist.

This is just a sample of what must be done to claim that oodles and oodles of never ending poodles is what is actually observed.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
I said you didn’t need permission to ask, ask. Because otherwise your avoidance is getting tiresome.....
Where did you go? You were popping off posts rapid fire and now nothing. I see your little green dot is radiating, so you are still there?

You should be able to rattle off the answers to my questions just off the top of your head.

Talk to me Goose.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
I said you didn’t need permission to ask, ask. Because otherwise your avoidance is getting tiresome.....
I see your little green dot is not radiating anymore. You must have just missed my several posts notifying you that I had posted my questions. Do not worry. I know where my post is and I can ask them again. Anytime.

Meanwhile, Google is your friend. Look up all that stuff I asked about dogs and bacteria and come back with some of your famous hand waving and ad hominem. That will surely answer my questions and set us all straight.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Ask, not going back hoping to find the question you want answered so you can continue to avoid just restating it so you can continue to pretend it’s not being answered.

I said ask, and yet you avoided restating your question just so you can pretend it’s not being answered....
Sad....
Post number 960, just so you can go back and look at it. There are others, but I did not take the time to look for them. This is the latest post full of questions. I included the content in one of my posts today and here is a link.

Evidence for a Young Earth (Not Billions of Years Old)

I would not want anyone to think you were trying to avoid answering them and had not been given ample opportunity.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The only one who failed in escape velocity is you, along with your absurdity of curvature causing PE. You spent six useless pages arguing that absurdity you finally had to admit was wrong, while claiming just like you are now it was me that was wrong.

It’s only people that think escape velocity increases as mass decreases that fail to understand physics.... but what can one expect from someone spending six pages arguing for something clearly in error while claiming it’s the other guy in error..... sad, sad, sad....

Maybe one day you’ll learn what an r squared force means......
Wow! Way to miss the point since I never claimed that. When it became obvious that you did not even understand Newtonian Mechanics I offered to go over the concept and you, like creationists do when facing they don't understand so often, you ran away.

So one more time, do you want to discuss escape velocity? Your errors were not even at the high school level.
 
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